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07 August 2013 18:08
 

Some guys get all the looks.

 
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08 August 2013 16:25
 

Benjamin Thornton;100134 wrote:

Some guys get all the looks.


And a cool chain-of-office, to boot!

 

—Guy (looking in the mirror and crying) ....

 
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13 August 2013 00:59
 

...and what’s wrong with 70?  That could be me (sans tabard of course, and also sans about 150 lbs) in just over two years…

(muted sounds of sobbing…)

 
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17 August 2013 13:48
 

Finally getting around to watching the series of Marvel comics movies leading up to The Avengers. Bruce Banner finds his way back to the fictitious Culver University in Virginia and I noticed a very nice coat of arms on the computer he was using when he sneaked back into the lab. I couldn’t grab a screen shot, but I found this online from an auction of props from the movie.

http://archive.propworx.com/img/e98d37faa1f845c8f50d5e9691a0029a.jpg

 
 
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04 September 2013 20:43
 

The other Captain America shield from the movie?

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05 September 2013 11:36
 

That REALLY looks awesome!

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30 September 2013 11:21
 

1939 version with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce.  John Carradine is the butler Barryman.

Inside Baskerville Hall; huge achievement over the fireplace:

http://www.moviedir.com/images/cache/screen_image_417792.jpg

 

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30 September 2013 11:51
 

1959 Hammer production of "The Hound of the Baskervilles" with Peter Cushing as Sherlock Holmes.  This shot shows stained glass windows from the moat side; a reveller in thrown through the window on the right.

http://imageshack.us/a/img855/7929/l6j8.jpg

 

I couldn’t get a clear screenshot; didn’t want to spend $3 to view the movie, so this came from a YouTube trailer.

 

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30 September 2013 12:20
 

But none of them the arms of the Baskervilles, which invariably have roundels, usually blue, sometimes red; usually with a chevron between, sometimes not.

 
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30 September 2013 15:11
 

Joseph McMillan;100783 wrote:

But none of them the arms of the Baskervilles, which invariably have roundels, usually blue, sometimes red; usually with a chevron between, sometimes not.


Say it ain’t so, Joe!  Hollywood and Hammer Studios are NOT historically accurate?

 

"I’m shocked—shocked—to find that ...here!"

 

http://maddawggmanifesto.info/pics/britepics/shocked.JPG

 

(^__^)

 
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07 November 2013 13:41
 

Granada TV’s adaptation entitled "The Eligible Bachelor" deviates from the Canon.  In the Canon, Holmes reaches for an armorial and reads from it; in the Granada version, it is Watson.  The quotes I’ve added are from the Canon, some of which is used in the TV version.

"...He [Holmes] picked a red-covered volume from a line of books of reference beside the mantelpiece…"

 

http://imageshack.us/a/img834/5192/2kdh.jpg

 

"..."Here he is," said he, sitting down and flattening it out upon his knee…."

 

http://imageshack.us/a/img716/1953/wpn6.jpg

 

"...Lord Robert Walsingham de Vere St. Simon, second son of the Duke of Balmoral. Hum! Arms: Azure, three caltrops in chief over a fess sable...."

 

http://imageshack.us/a/img30/2853/0zfl.jpg

 

 

"..Born in 1846. He’s forty-one years of age, which is mature for marriage. Was Under-Secretary for the colonies in a late administration. The Duke, his father, was at one time Secretary for Foreign Affairs. They inherit Plantagenet blood by direct descent, and Tudor on the distaff side. Ha! Well, there is nothing very instructive in all this. I think that I must turn to you Watson, for something more solid…."

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"...As it is an open secret that the Duke of Balmoral has been compelled to sell his pictures within the last few years, and as Lord St. Simon has no property of his own save the small estate of Birchmoor,..."

 

Later, inside the dilapidated ancestral seat of the St. Simons, the camera pans around and passes by a carved filial on a chair:

 

http://imageshack.us/a/img35/4416/p5hh.jpg

 

 

Thus endeth the heraldry in "The Eligible Bachelor>"

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08 November 2013 15:59
 

The Duke of Holdernesse’s son is kidnapped.  While Holmes & Watson are at the school, the Duke is driven up in a coach.  The camera pans in on the Arms emblazoned on the coach door:

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/4420/hapv.jpg

 

Per Baker Street Wikia:
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The 6th Duke of Holdernesse K.G., P.C., Baron Beverley, Earl of Cranston, was a British peer and politician. His family seat was Holdernesse Hall near Mackleton, Hallamshire, in northern England. Sherlock Holmes investigated the kidnapping of his son and heir, Lord Saltire, in The Adventure of the Priory School.

Lord Holdernesse was one of the wealthiest and most respectable men in the Empire. He owned about two hundred and fifty thousand acres, with a wide diversity of holdings including minerals in Lancashire and Wales, and several houses: Holdernesse Hall in Hallamshire; Carlton House Terrace; and Carston Castle in Bangor, Wales. In addition, he occupied several important government posts: he was appointed Lord of the Admiralty in 1872, and held a position on the Privy Council, and in the cabinet as a Chief Secretary of State. From 1900 he was the Lord Lieutenant of Hallamshire. The duke was a Knight of the Garter, Britain’s oldest and most respected order of chivalry.

 

In 1888 he married Edith Appledore, daughter of Sir Charles Appledore, with whom he had one son, Lord Saltire. However, the two became estranged, and separated by mutual consent, with Lady Edith retiring to the south of France.

 

 
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08 November 2013 16:23
 

Stained glass windows in the duke’s study:

http://imageshack.us/a/img194/558/gs89.jpg

 
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10 November 2013 13:09
 

While Hollywood and Hammer miss the mark, the 1988 Granada TV/WGBH production of "The Hound of the Baskervilles" with Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwicke as Holmes and Watson shows the impaled Baskerville shield carved in stone on a mantelpiece as a chevron between three roundels (2 and 1) flanked on either side by supporters of griffins.

 
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10 November 2013 13:30
 

Thomas Pinkney Davis;100988 wrote:

While Hollywood and Hammer miss the mark, the 1988 Granada TV/WGBH production of "The Hound of the Baskervilles" with Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwicke as Holmes and Watson shows the impaled Baskerville shield carved in stone on a mantelpiece as a chevron between three roundels (2 and 1) flanked on either side by supporters of griffins.


Thanks for the tip!  I suppose next I’ll be watching the Granada version .... (^__^)

 

—Guy