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19 August 2013 04:09
 

the Royal Netherlands Navy started to use emblems for their ships in 1940 inspired by the Royal Navy. The emblems differ from the Royal Navy ones in that there are 2 anchors placed behind the emblem and the crown is different. It is usual that the Hoge Raad van Adel (high council of the nobility) is involved with the design. The RNN often uses the same names for its ships (naval heroes, place names etc.) and if the old ship already had such an emblem it is usual that the old emblem is adopted for the new ship. The emblems are mostly based on the family arms or the arms of the enity after which the ships are named.

 
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19 August 2013 09:26
 

arriano;100279 wrote:

Out of curiousity, does anyone know when ships, particularly U.S. Navy ships, started getting heraldic devices? And is it common in foreign navies?


The Ships of the Navies of Denmark, Norway and Sweden uses heraldic arms. Heraldic devises had been long usedan but the use of regular Ships’ Arms developed after WW2. The Ships of the Royal Danish Navy have shields placed on an Anchor and ensigned by a Royal Crown. The Royal Norwegian Navy uses Shields surroundend by ropes fasten on an nameplate resting on top of the Shield. On the nameplate a Royal Crown. The Royal Swedish Navy has no external naval ornaments just ensigning thier shields with a Royal Crown.

 

As for the content of the Shields, Ships named for Cities, Counties and armorial Persons usualy uses the namesake’s Arms. Ships namned after other things are more free to create original Arms.

 

In the Navy of Finland, ships named after Cities and Counties uses their Arms without any ornaments.

 

The Estonian Navy has since Independence created som nice Ships’ Arms. They are inform of a circular roped Seal ensigned by a Trident Crown, inside the Seal are placed a Armorial Shield.

 

Russia are in the process of impementing a rather elaborate Heraldic system for it’s Navy. Where the design includes symbols for type of Ship.

 

The Polish Navy uses Badgelike designs which may or may not include Heraldry.

 

The German Navy has the tradition of using the Arms of the Cities or other geographic area for which the Ship are named. This is placed on the Stem of the Ship. This was also the case when Ships where named after Armorial persons. Thus the Battleship Bismarck carried the Arms of Prince Bismarck and the Battlecruiser Scharnhorst the Arms of Gerhard von Scharnhorst (of Napoleonic War fame).

 
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19 August 2013 11:52
 

arriano;100279 wrote:

Out of curiousity, does anyone know when ships, particularly U.S. Navy ships, started getting heraldic devices? And is it common in foreign navies?

The Royal Canadian Navy, Royal Australian Navy, Royal New Zealand Navy, and South African Navy follow the Royal Navy practice.

In the case of the SAN, the earliest use of ships’ badges was in World War II, but it was not placed on a systematic basis until after the war.  The badge is enclosed in a frame of golden cable (usually circular, but sometimes shield-shaped or pentagonal).  At the top of the frame is a horizontal plate displaying the ship’s name.  Above that is a naval crown (pre-1950s), the crest of the old SA national coat of arms (1950s-2002), or the crest of the present national arms (2002- ).

 

The badges of ships named after provinces and cities are generally based on the provincial or civic arms.  Those named after people sometimes include charges from the personal arms of their namesakes.  Sometimes, the same design is used for all ships in the same class, each badge being differenced slightly.  The ‘Minister-class’ strike craft, for instance, all had badges displaying a Viking longboat.  The design on the sail differed from badge to badge.  The ‘River-class’ minehunters all have a badge depicting a bridge spanning a river, with an individual charge in chief.

 
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03 April 2014 16:12
 

DDG-1002 has been named USS Lyndon B. Johnson after the 36th President of the United States.

No Arms for these are revealed at the present.

 
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23 April 2014 12:15
 

Well no luck for the USS Heinlein lobbyists. DDG 1002 will be the last ship of the Zumwalt Class. Cost overruns have led the Class originaly planned to be 32 Ships strong first to be axed to 10 and then just three. To make up for this the Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers will gain further Ships DDG 113-126. Contracts for DDG 113 - DDG 120 have so far been awarded.