Dimitri Gallitzin

 
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14 July 2014 11:35
 

Has the AHS considered adding an entry for Dimitri Gallitzin to one or another category of the roll of early American arms—religious leaders, for instance? The so-called "Apostle of the Alleghenies," a Russian nobleman and one of the very first RC priests ordained in the United States, would seem to warrant inclusion. I’d offer to do the emblazonment myself but lack the requisite software.

It could be that it’s already here somewhere, and I’ve simply failed to spot it. If so, my bad.

 
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14 July 2014 21:08
 

Wilfred Leblanc;102211 wrote:

Has the AHS considered adding an entry for Dimitri Gallitzin to one or another category of the roll of early American arms—religious leaders, for instance? The so-called "Apostle of the Alleghenies," a Russian nobleman and one of the very first RC priests ordained in the United States, would seem to warrant inclusion. I’d offer to do the emblazonment myself but lack the requisite software.

It could be that it’s already here somewhere, and I’ve simply failed to spot it. If so, my bad.


He could certainly be added to both the REAA, assuming he was here before 1825, and to the religious leaders roll.  Do you have the blazon of his arms?

 
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14 July 2014 23:32
 

Joseph McMillan;102213 wrote:

He could certainly be added to both the REAA, assuming he was here before 1825, and to the religious leaders roll.  Do you have the blazon of his arms?


I don’t have the blazon, but here are some images:

 

http://www.demetriusgallitzin.org/Chapel House/Interior/Gallitzin - Stained Glass window - Gallitzin crest.jpg

 

http://www.demetriusgallitzin.org/Chapel House/Crest Stamp/Stamp.htm

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Demetrius_Augustine_Gallitzin.jpg

 
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15 July 2014 20:57
 

There appear to be some differences between the three images.  In such cases, Joe, do you look for the most "official" version in the Old Country records, or the version actually used here?  (I assume the latter, with maybe a footnote to the former, but am curious if that’s accurate.)

 
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16 July 2014 12:53
 

http://www.demetriusgallitzin.org/images/Stained Glass Crest.jpg
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Prince, priest, and missionary, Demetrius Augustine Gallitzin was born at The Hague on December 22, 1770; he died at Loretto, Pennsylvania on May 6, 1840. He was a scion of one of the oldest, wealthiest, and most illustrious families of Russia. His father, Prince Demetrius Gallitzin (d. 16 March, 1803), Russian ambassador to Holland at the time of his son’s birth, had been previously for fourteen years the Russian ambassador to France, and was an intimate acquaintance of Diderot, Voltaire, d’Alembert, and other rationalists of the day….

...On March 18, 1795, Demetrius was ordained a priest, being the first to receive in the limits of the original thirteen of the United States all the orders from tonsure to priesthood….

 

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According to Wiki, "Peter I permitted the Golitsyns to incorporate the emblem of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania into their coat of arms."

 

 

 

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16 July 2014 12:56
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16 July 2014 18:23
 

I attended college in Loretto, PA and used to see his grave all the time (which was not, at that time anyway, decorated with his arms). He was Lithuanian, not Russian.

 
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16 July 2014 22:46
 

I beg to differ, Fr. Guy. Yes, the Gallitzin family was of Lithuanian descent (as the arms clearly show), but to say that Dimitri Gallitzin was "Lithuanian, not Russian," is a little like saying FDR was Dutch, not American. The presence and prestige of the Gallitzins in Russia are very well attested from the late Middle Ages to the Revolution—and, actually, on through the years of the Soviet regime, as even a cursory glance at an encyclopedia will reveal.

 
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22 July 2014 14:41
 

Fr Gallitzin is now in both the alphabetical section of the REAA and in the roll of religious leaders.

http://www.americanheraldry.org/pages/uploads/Notable/gallitzin.gif

 
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22 July 2014 16:41
 

Cool!

 
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23 July 2014 13:34
 

Good job, Joe!

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24 July 2014 12:38
 

Excellent, Joe. Thank you for responding so favorably to my suggestion.