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21 February 2015 05:33
 

These are named for different Winds and have rather attractive Heraldry.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/USS_Monsoon_PC-4_Crest.png

USS Monsoon PC-4.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/USS_Typhoon_PC-5_Crest.png

USS Typhoon PC-5.

 
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21 February 2015 05:35
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21 February 2015 22:35
 

Interesting & quite nice - thanks for sharing!

I wonder if these are TIOH creations, or Navy designs even if passed thru TIOH.

 
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22 February 2015 07:48
 

TIOH.  These ships had the advantage of having no namesakes in the real world to kibbitz in the design process, unlike ships named after people (who have families) or places (which have citizens and politicians).

 
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22 February 2015 10:25
 

Very attractive arms.

One would wish that all US military heraldry were of similar quality, but we all know that won’t happen.

 

Sort of makes it easier to appreciate the good military heraldry when it comes along, though.

 
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22 February 2015 13:21
 

I still think the best arms of this class of ships are those of USS Tornado (PC-14), which I posted several years ago.  I first saw them when I got to visit the ship at Little Creek, Va, in 2000.  The posture of the dragon just screams "TORNADO"!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/USS_Tornado_PC-14_COA.png/485px-USS_Tornado_PC-14_COA.png

 
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22 February 2015 15:48
 

So does the curly dragon of the Hurricane - similar theme but heraldically quite distinct.  Any/all of these designs are praiseworthy.

For new ships (or anything else) that are to be named after heroes or cities, it mighjt be helpful for TIOH to provide several of these as exemplars when they first broach the notion to families or town councils.  Easier (hopefully) to plant the seed of simplicity before, rather than after, the families or aldermen etc., begin assembling all the family or civic brick-a-brack and kitchen plumbing in their minds.

 

Also maybe postage-stamp size images of these vs. some more complex heraldic designs, posted on the wall several yards from where the stakeholders are seated, to make the point about being distinguishable in small size or at a distance.

 

Or nmaybe hey’ve already tried these approaches to no avail smile

 
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22 February 2015 18:52
 

Unfortunately, TIOH doesn’t do the broaching, as Chuck Mugno, the director, explained when we visited TIOH at the AHS annual meeting.  TIOH responds to requests from non-Army units, and sometimes they come with their own fixed ideas in hand.

(That said, I too would like to see the institute press back a little more firmly.  Maybe I should start another thread with some examples of exchanges with non-Army customers in the old days.)

 
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23 February 2015 13:51
 

Please do!

 
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28 February 2015 04:43
 

Some more:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/USS_Cyclone_PC-13_COA.png

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/USS_Squall_PC-7_Crest.png

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/USS_Zephyr_PC-8_Crest.png

 

Note USS Cyclone was sold to the Philippines in 2004 and entered Philippine service as BRP General Mariano Alvarez PS-38 on 8 March 2004.

 
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28 February 2015 04:46
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28 February 2015 04:50
 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/USS_Shamal_PC-13_Crest.png

On 1 October 2004 USS Shamal was tranferred to the USCG as the USCGC Shamal WPC-13. Trasferred back to the US Navy 30 September 2011 again as PC-13. During the Coast Guard service new Insigna was made as seen below.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/USCGC_Shamal_WPC-13_COA.png

 
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28 February 2015 05:04
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28 February 2015 06:05
 

Interesting that the crests for the Squall and the Cyclone seem to feature male griffins without the usual rays.

 
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01 March 2015 01:36
 

Cyclone & Tempest are both IMO very nice - not only striking visually, but expressing the spirit of the names.

The yellow axehead of Cyclone could use a black outline where it overlies the white but that’s only an artistic nitpick; the blue & white swirly field says "cyclone" nicely.

 

Tempest is in some ways the most visually striking of the lot but also the most challenging to grasp as a blazon.  It took me a while to figure it out - hey, 70 and on meds smile - but when my brain finally got it, Eureka!  I’d nominate this one for our next round of awards.

 
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01 March 2015 01:51
 

Cyclone & Tempest are both IMO very nice - not only striking visually, but expressing the spirit of the names.

The yellow axehead of Cyclone could use a black outline where it overlies the white but that’s only an artistic nitpick; the blue & white swirly field says "cyclone" nicely.

 

Tempest is in some ways the most visually striking of the lot but also the most challenging to grasp as a blazon - it took me a while to figure it out (hey, 70 and on meds smile - but when my brain finally got it, Eureka!  I’d nominate this one for our next round of awards.

 

There are other possible nominees in the pack.  To me, Squall is pretty nice in spite of - or maybe because of - the clever use of two shades of blue to create a visual image reflecting the name.  Not sure the Directors would buy this one!