Colonial Governors

 
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16 June 2016 19:17
 

arriano;106070 wrote:

I guess it depends upon one’s definition of a traitor. Lee was certainly never charged with treason. But if you take an oath to defend the United States against all enemies, and do just the opposite, well….

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The oath of office is binding only as long as you hold the office.  Lee resigned his federal commission before accepting the commission to command the Virginia forces.

 
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16 June 2016 20:05
 

Lee, whatever you think of his actions, acted in accordance with his own principles and was up front about it.  Admirable if wrong-headed.

Arnold betrayed the cause, in substantial part for money, while still pretending loyalty and serving in as a Continental officer.  Scum.

 
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17 June 2016 15:38
 

snelson;106025 wrote:

Great job Joe!  I have a couple more Spanish colonial governors lined up…now I just need to find the time to write about them :(


Hi Sebastian,

Do you have a link to that Spanish colonial governor thread? It sounds pretty interesting.

 
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17 June 2016 15:41
 

Michael F. McCartney;106072 wrote:

Lee, whatever you think of his actions, acted in accordance with his own principles and was up front about it.  Admirable if wrong-headed.

Arnold betrayed the cause, in substantial part for money, while still pretending loyalty and serving in as a Continental officer.  Scum.


I thought in context with Arnold everyone was talking about Charles Lee at first. But now I understand; Robert E Lee.

 
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17 June 2016 16:04
 

I assume that’s the Lee we’re talking about! -though come to think of it, I lost track of how we got from Colonial Governors to any of the Lee family… but then losing track of a thread is more frequent the older I get! smile

 
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17 June 2016 16:20
 

Michael F. McCartney;106075 wrote:

I assume that’s the Lee we’re talking about! -though come to think of it, I lost track of how we got from Colonial Governors to any of the Lee family… but then losing track of a thread is more frequent the older I get! smile


Haha. Yes, we’ve definitely gotten off topic. Swinging back around, bravo again on the Colonial Governors page. Hope there are plenty more arms waiting in archives, history books, and tableware to add.

 
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17 June 2016 23:16
 

JJB;106073 wrote:

Hi Sebastian,

Do you have a link to that Spanish colonial governor thread? It sounds pretty interesting.


Hi Jeffry,

 

I’ve written a little about the arms of a couple Spanish colonial governors (Bernardo de Galvez, Diego de Vargas, Arturo O’Neill, Jose de Escandon, Francisco de Carondelet, Juan María de Ripperda, Manuel Gayoso de Lemos, José Manuel de Ezpeleta) here on the AHS forum, along with a few print articles in The Double Tressure and The Coat of Arms.  You should be able to find the old posts by keyword searching (unfortunately some of the links in my original posts no longer work).  I’ve obtained period illustrations of the arms of about 10 or 12 more Spanish colonial figures who played a role in the history of what is today the US, including some governors…now I just need to find the time to write them up.

 
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21 June 2016 01:52
 

Honestly wasn’t trying to begin a Robert E. Lee vs. Benedict Arnold debate.

I honestly think it would be appropriate (and very traditional) to list the Arnold arms among notable military figures, but omit his name.  E.G. the text of the monument at West Point:

"Major general…born 1740"

 
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