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20 November 2006 22:44
 

Anyone know a reference, online or in print, blazoning or emblazoning, the arms the Brits presumably gave the Indian states durring the British Raj? Also, have the Indian cities/states generally kept those arms, or adopted new ones? The cities are finally returning to their original names these days (what was once Bombay is now Mumbai again, et c.), so it would be curious if they continued to keep the old arms.

For what it’s worth, wikipedia shows little sign of any governmental armorial activity.

 

(I may have asked this before… in that case :oops:, a pointer to that would do well.)

 
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Vijay,

I just found this site: http://www.ngw.nl/int/asia/india/india.htm which shows the Coats of Arms of various India States.  Their caveat is
Quote:

Most of the information dates from the times of the British Indian Empire (pre 1948). Many arms will probably be obsolete by now.


Bombay:

http://www.ngw.nl/int/asia/india/images/bombay.jpg

 

Mumbai:

http://www.ngw.nl/int/asia/india/images/mumbai.gif

 

I wonder if the Army will now call "bangalore torpedo" Bangalora torpedoa

LOL

 

Cheers,

—Guy

 
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21 November 2006 00:12
 

And this website mentions this citation:

Heraldry List of British India: SN Mukherjee Collection, Universitry of Western Sydney, Australia

see notes at http://www.muktadhara.net/politicos.html

 
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21 November 2006 14:27
 

Vijay Kaul wrote:

Anyone know a reference, online or in print, blazoning or emblazoning, the arms the Brits presumably gave the Indian states durring the British Raj? Also, have the Indian cities/states generally kept those arms, or adopted new ones?


I believe that, apart from a few major cities, most of the arms granted by the British were to Indian rulers, notably in connection with the so-called Durbars, the Imperial Assemblages held in 1876-1877, at the assumption by Queen Victoria of the title of Empress of India, in 1903 and 1911, following the accession of Edward VII and George V respectively (George V was the only sovereign actually to attend an assemblage).

 

Since the achievements were granted specifically to the Indian princes of various categories, and since their various states do not correspond geographically with the states of modern India - and not least given the strive of the early republic to disassociate itself from the British rule and the role by the princely families - it is highly unlikely that any of the symbols created by the British would have been carried on by modern India.  Given the status of the princely families in India today, I am unable to say to what extent they may still use those symbols, but I have seen representations of some of them in the palaces formerly, and in some cases still, owned by the families, so there is an indication that they were at least used in the past - even if they were part of the very elaborate efforts of the British to tie the states to the empire, according them a status, while still reminding them of their feudal relationship with the Paramount Power.

 

Following the 1877 assemblage, the arms given to the various princes were published in "The Princely Armory: Being a display of the Arms of the Ruling Chiefs of India after their Banners as prepared for the Imperial Assemblage held at Delhi on the first day of January 1877" (Calcutta: Office of the Superintendent of Government Printing. 1877).  I have a reprint of this (I could not tell you who did it or when, as that is not stated), consisting of a set of loose leaves (A4 size) in a slip-case, listing the name, style and title of each of 90 princes,as well as the blazon and exemplification, in line drawings, of the arms assigned to them. each achievement on a separate page.

 

There was, incidentally, an article in the latest (Autumn 2006) number of "The Coat of Arms", the journal of the Heraldry Society (London), an article, "Heralds at the Durbars", by Peter O’Donoghue.  Rather than focusing on the heraldry as such, it describes the appointment of British, and in one instance an Indian, herald specifically to officiate at the Imperial Assemblages.  It appears from this article, however, that the various achievements assigned to the princes were rather "mass" produced for the assemblages (particularly the 1877 assemblage), by a civil servant in the (British) Indian administration, albeit under some guidance from the College of Arms in London.  The drawings in the "Princely Armory", almost appearing to be produced over some sort of template (in best Victorian style), seem to attest to this.  I am not sure that Letters Patent were even produced for each Prince, but rather that banners were made displaying the arms, which were then symbolically handed by the King-Emperor to each prince at the Imperial Assemblage.  Again, much part of the demonstration of the Paramount Power.

 
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22 November 2006 18:41
 

sunil saigal wrote:

...not least given the strive of the early republic to disassociate itself from the British rule and the role by the princely families…

Indeed.

Thanks, all, for the info. I guess it makes sense to me, given the regard the British government had for India, that only a few select cities would be deemed important enough to warrant a grant of arms. Further, it would be important to grant all the princes arms, while solidifing their position in the British hierarchy; however, neither the princes nor the Brits were too worried about their contents.

 

The arms of Bombai and Mumbai are revealing. I think I like the old ones more, but the new ones have a color scheme that feels more Indian, somehow. Interesting that they’ve kept the Brit’s lion for a "crest," though sans crown and shield.

 

Thanks for all the details, Sunil: I think my curiosity has been satisfied.

 
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