Bishop’s Arms

 
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05 December 2006 22:38
 

Thanks Jose

Torreciudad as always looks beautiful but unfortunately all the pictures are too small to see the other (7?) CoA of Saint Jose Maria Escriva de Balaguer. The chequy Or & Gules is the Escriva’s ancestral arms right? I am wondering if some mark was added.

 

As per Monsenor Alvaro del Portillo I am wondering if he used his family CoA and since he was a knight of the S.O.Malta if he used his four quarters achievment.

 

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13 December 2006 04:33
 

Dear Sirs:

I’m sorry this answer is so late because I have spent a few days in the coast, with my family, due to the Immaculate holydays. (Have you got, Sirs, any free day for the Immaculate there, in the States?)

 

A few lines about founder of Opus Dei:

 

In Spain, in the entire kingdom, the CoA is the graphical extension of the surname. (So the late king of arms don Vicente de Cadenas explained it in different books that I have in my own library).

 

During the beginning of the Opus Dei St. Josemaría used the chequy divided in 15 pieces (in 15 squares) Or and Gules. These are the generic arms of the Escrivá family. But he solicited to the Ministry of Justice the change of his family name (surname) from Escrivá to Escrivá de Balaguer. His petition was accepted. But he didn’t change his arms.

 

He maintained a great friendship with the king of arms (don Vicente de Cadenas) because two both were too much conservatives.  Then don Vicente created for St. Josemaría new arms: The same of surname Escrivá but divided in 30 pieces (30 squares). Surprising the founder never used those arms. Probably as consequence of his humility.

 

For example, there is an important noble family in Spain called: Escrivá de Romaní. This family, of course, used a variation in their arms: The chequy Or and Gules, but with an escutcheon azure with a crescent argent.

 

The arms of the founder, which I have been in Rome, in the Central House of the Prelature were, indeed, the chequy (15 squares). Represented in a shield of coloured wood, over a wall.

 

Also, in Torreciudad shrine, in the base of the ciborium, is possible to see the CoA with the four quarters of the founder. The quarter for Escrivá de Balaguer is always the same.

 

I’ll send the photos to the Reverend Father Guy Selvester in a private message. (I’m abusing of his kindness). If he considers a good idea, he’ll insert in this Message board. (I can not insert graphic files from my own computer).

 

In other way: I’m sorry but I don’t know what arms used the first prelate, don Álvaro del Portillo, before he was elected bishop-prelate.

 
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13 December 2006 06:44
 

The arms of the bishop of Mondoñedo-Ferrol, in Galicia, Spain, are at this page:

(The page is in Spanish)

 

http://www.mondonedoferrol.org/definitiva diocesis_archivos/obispo/obispoescudo.htm

 
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13 December 2006 06:49
 

The arms of the bishop of Zamora, in Castile and León, Spain, are at this page:

(The page is in Spanish)

 

http://www.obispadodezamora.es/Noticias/actividades/2006/Escudo Mons. Casimiro Lopez.html

 
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13 December 2006 11:23
 

Thanks a lot Jose

Extensive explanation about the arms and circumstances arround Escriva de Balaguer armorials.

 

We should forward this info to Sebatian Nelson for his work "Arms of Saints"

http://members.lycos.co.uk/heraldryjunkyard/saints.htm

 

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13 December 2006 14:59
 

Dear Jose,

Sorry to get off topic, but would you happen to know the blazon for Saint Maria Maravillas de Jesus Pidal y Chico de Guzmán (1891-1974) daughter of Luis Pidal y Mon, the Marques de Pidal

 

Thank you!

 
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13 December 2006 16:32
 

Here is a photo sent to me by Jose of the tabernacle in the church at Torreciudad that bear the arms of Saint Jose Maria Escriva on the base. I have also included a closeup to try and get a better view of the arms.

http://s2.excoboard.com/forums/3205/user/85362/358886.jpg

 

 

http://s2.excoboard.com/forums/3205/user/85362/358887.jpg

 
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13 December 2006 16:55
 

Here are the arms of the bishop of Huesca, Spain.

A little busy, no?

 

http://www.diocesisdehuesca.org/imagenes/Escudo Obispo.jpg

 
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13 December 2006 19:31
 

Not to mention in violation of the norms for arms of bishops, right?

I guess no rule can prevent the mess on the shield, but if I’m not mistaken the miter and crozier are totally taboo.

 
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13 December 2006 19:37
 

JOSÉ CARRIÓN RANGEL wrote:

Dear Sirs:

I’m sorry this answer is so late because I have spent a few days in the coast, with my family, due to the Immaculate holydays. (Have you got, Sirs, any free day for the Immaculate there, in the States?)

 


Hope you enjoyed your time off.  No, we don’t get Immaculate Conception as a day off here in the U.S.  The only church feast day that is a public holiday in the United States is Christmas.  (Except for Mardi Gras, otherwise known as Carnival or Shrove Tuesday—the day before the beginning of Lent—which is a public holiday in Louisiana and the southernmost counties of Alabama.  Not for very religious reasons, however.)

 
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14 December 2006 03:17
 

gselvester wrote:

Here are the arms of the bishop of Huesca, Spain.

A little busy, no?

 

http://www.diocesisdehuesca.org/imagenes/Escudo Obispo.jpg


looks a bit like a glass in lead window wink

 
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14 December 2006 17:03
 

Exlibris of Monsignor Frank Archbishop of Luxembourg

I haven’t been able to find the tinctures or blazoning.

 

http://www.aurelio.valarezo.net/Fernand Frank.JPG

 
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15 December 2006 03:28
 

look at this link :

http://homepages.internet.lu/ParFousbann/uergel/nei-uergel.html

 

this one is in colour. smile

 
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15 December 2006 07:53
 

Sirs:

This page contains the CoA of the bishop of Basel and his auxiliary bishops.

 

Is it an influence or the artist is the late Mons. B.B.Heim?

 

http://www.bistum-basel.ch/seite.php?na=3,4,1,0,d

 
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15 December 2006 10:27
 

Bishops Koch and Gachter had their arms done by Heim. The other one, i believe, was done "in the style of" Heim but not by him.