The captain american symbol proper!
CoryLymanMcHenry wrote:
The captain american symbol proper!
That’s his shield… I don’t think I’m a skilled enough a blazoner to do it justice
On a plate fimbrated gules, a hurt fimbrated gules charged with a mullet argent… I think… maybe….
Linusboarder wrote:
Who can blazon this?
Gules, within an orle Argent, a hurt charged with a mullet Argent.
One could also say: Gules within an orle Argent a hurt charged with a mullet of the last. (if you wanted to be antiquated)
IF it must be seen on a circular shield then that would have to be mentioned. Otherwise, these "arms" could be depicted on whatever shaped shield the artist desires.
gselvester wrote:
Gules, within an orle Argent, a hurt charged with a mullet Argent.
One could also say: Gules within an orle Argent a hurt charged with a mullet of the last. (if you wanted to be antiquated)
IF it must be seen on a circular shield then that would have to be mentioned. Otherwise, these "arms" could be depicted on whatever shaped shield the artist desires.
It must be on a circular shield, or else it’s not Cpt America’s arms. What’s a hurt?
gselvester wrote:
Gules, within an orle Argent, a hurt charged with a mullet Argent.
One could also say: Gules within an orle Argent a hurt charged with a mullet of the last. (if you wanted to be antiquated)
IF it must be seen on a circular shield then that would have to be mentioned. Otherwise, these "arms" could be depicted on whatever shaped shield the artist desires.
Think you’re missing an "Azure" in there.
A hurt is by definition a roundel Azure.
arriano wrote:
Think you’re missing an "Azure" in there.
A hurt can only be azure so it isn’t necessary to mention it. That’s the point of naming the roundels based on their tincture.
Linusboarder wrote:
It must be on a circular shield, or else it’s not Cpt America’s arms. What’s a hurt?
Well, that’s stretching the point just a tad especially as it isn’t really a coat of arms at all. A shield does not a coat of arms make. If it really were a coat of arms then it would be Capt. America’s regardless of what shaped shield it’s on. Since when does the shape of the shield constitute the point of differentiation between one arms and another? (actually, I can’t believe we’re even having this conversation)
As for a hurt please see my response above.
Older comic books depicted Capitain America’s shield as more traditional and with a different design:
Paly of thirteen Gules and Argent, and in chief Azure three mullets Argent.
The round shield and accompaning design was introduced later to incorperate the "boomerangic frisbee" feature.
It was more for a little bit of fun anyways. But that’s good to know Stephan I didn’t know that.
*edited by member*
Donnchadh wrote:
Heraldic disks/roundels:
* I have read, can’t remember where, that a plate should always be painted white and not silver when using metallic paints. Don’t know if that holds water or not and it might be from Fox-Davies I just can’t remember right now, but I do recall reading that somewhere.
I’ve never heard that, and it wouldn’t seem to make sense since the word "plate" comes from a word meaning "silver" (like the Spanish "plata"). What I have read is the assertion that since bezants and plates represent disk-like objects, they shouldn’t be shaded to appear spherical, unlike the other named roundels, which are supposed to represent things like apples, oranges, etc. (Although I’ve never been sure what a hurt actually is, unless it is supposed to represent a blue bruise where someone got hurt. That would seem to be the origin of golpe (from the verb to strike) as well. If hurt and golpe in fact do come from marks on skin, then they’d have to be pretty swollen to justify 3D shading!)
I too, also thought that a hurt represented a bruise! If I remember correctly, a bezant symbolized a gold Byzantine coin??
Cheers,
According to Wikipedia (which means it should be taken with a grain of salt) a "hurt" represents a berry the same way that a "pellet" represents gun shot and "pomme" an apple. They also say that the "golpe" represents a wound.
