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04 May 2007 11:24
 

OK, this is what we came up with last night in the chat room:

Vert a field seme estoiles Argent two Peels proper in saltire.

 

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z242/WBHenry/EmmaPeel.gif

 

I don’t know.  It works for me (but I’m not a well man).

 
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04 May 2007 12:09
 

No, no, Will: those are two Emma Peels in black & white. And I concur, you are not a well man. LOL

 
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04 May 2007 12:15
 

Just remember, Patrick, I had help with this.  I’m just the "herald."  The "artist" shall remain anonymous!  (But you should be relieved to know that I am back on my meds now…)

 
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04 May 2007 12:21
 

"Don’t shoot the messenger," eh, Will? Hmm ... besides, i think one Emma Peel should be enough for any man.

 
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04 May 2007 12:35
 

I see that Pr. Henry has already shared the raving our delusional minds.

Here are some more fruitful results of the conversation and suggestions from the board.  They’re mostly just tweaks to the current design.  However, if anyone has an idea that is radically different from what we’ve come up with so far, please chime in.

 

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/jonishairy/Heraldry/baker1-2.gif

Original design with two peels instead of the crook.

 

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/jonishairy/Heraldry/Baker3-2.gif

Semy (or is that poudre) of thirteen estoiles

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/jonishairy/Heraldry/Baker3-3.gif

My sad attempt at rendering a loaf of bread.

 

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04 May 2007 12:47
 

Decisions, decisions…

I really like the cross in the first rendition.  However, the second and third seem to have a better (more pleasing, equitable?) distribution of the estoiles.  (But if you do keep the cross in a final rendition, might I suggest raising it a little higher in chief…it seems "cramped" where it is currently located.)

 

The bread will help keep the uninitiated from thinking these are "oars."

 

Curious:  Each version uses two different metals for the peels and the estoiles.  Is that just personal preference?  Why not one metal throughout?

 

Have you thought about rolling pins instead of peels? wink

 

Things seem to be moving along quite nicely (but I am going to miss Emma).

 
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04 May 2007 12:48
 

I, honestly, still liked the one with the white saltire the best, but any of these would fine.

I think you should keep the cross in the honor point though, it looks very nice and IMO brings out the estoiles even more.

 

Maybe it would look better reversing the color of the stars and peels

 
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04 May 2007 13:15
 

Why not make the shield the oven…?

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04 May 2007 13:16
 

Jonathan R. Baker;44401 wrote:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/jonishairy/Heraldry/Baker3-2.gif

Semy (or is that poudre) of thirteen estoiles


This is the most pleasing design to my eye. I might add the loaves to the peels, as in the French example, that is three smaller loaves on each peel. If you are enamored with the cross, save it for the basis of a badge design.

 

As we discussed last night, poudré is the French heraldic term to describe an arbitrary powdering of a specific or unspecific number of charges that differs from semé in that there are no partial charges at the edge of the field.

 
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04 May 2007 13:36
 

That is quite cleaver, Michael!  (Off topic:  Thanks for updating my armorial page so quickly!)

 
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04 May 2007 21:18
 

Ah, Michael. I liked that last one and when I got on here to save it to my hard drive it had disappeared. Perhaps it’s because I’m on my workplace network. I’ll try again when I get home.

You certainly gave a new meaning to "heater shield."

 

JRB

 

Edit:  I can see the images now that I’m at home.  Work computers suck.

 
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06 May 2007 18:00
 

I showed my dad some of the stuff we’ve worked up, and he really liked Colin’s idea to put the peels on a saltire, but he liked the other stuff as well.

Inspired by a read through the Finnish Genealogical Project thread, here are a couple more renditions.  Again, I’m just throwing ideas out there for comments and criticism, so don’t hold back.

 

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/jonishairy/Heraldry/Baker4.gif

 

My wife didn’t like the bezants, so I attempted to make a French loaf.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/jonishairy/Heraldry/Baker4-2.gif

 

 

I just found out that my parents and grandparents will both be in town for Mother’s Day (that never happens), so I’d like to have a few proposals to show them.  I like what we’ve got so far, but I’d like to see any other ideas you guys might have.

 

Thanks,

 

JRB

 
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06 May 2007 18:24
 

Here’s Michael’s in green with the thirteen stars.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/jonishairy/Heraldry/BakerSwanson.gif

 
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06 May 2007 20:10
 

JB,

Check out the NAVA principles of flag design.  The same principles can be useful in designing CoAs.

 
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07 May 2007 17:33
 

Here’s some more with only one metal:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e221/pblanton/baker2.jpg http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e221/pblanton/Baker3.jpg http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e221/pblanton/Baker4.jpg http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e221/pblanton/baker5.jpg

 

I changed the peels on the saltires to Sable to make them stand out a bit more. The odd looking stars on the last two are actually mullets of four points radiant. This was included to give the idea of a "cross" and "star" in the same charge.

 

Just some more options to look at.

 

Take care,