Coast Guard Cutters’ CoA now on TIOH

 
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16 December 2008 12:13
 

Doug Welsh;65182 wrote:

Is there a reason the Sinister canton is not mentioned in either blazon or explanation?


I don’t know if there’s a reason for not mentioning it, but the bend gules and bendlet azure are the distinctive markings painted on the hulls of US Coast Guard cutters.

 

That said, I have a hard time seeing why it needs to be on the arms of a cutter, or in particular why a sinister instead of dexter canton.

 
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16 December 2008 13:54
 

Doug Welsh;65182 wrote:

Is there a reason the Sinister canton is not mentioned in either blazon or explanation?


I have no clue of why this is the case. On the TIOH site the sinister canton is not mentioned but shown in the painting.

 
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16 December 2008 15:30
 

Daniel C. Boyer;41523 wrote:

It’s interesting that these arms are on a lozenge.  Very few corporate arms have a "feminine personality" in this way—an example was Maidenhead in England.

A feminine form for a ship named for a lady.  Makes sense.  Both the RN and the RCN used lozenges forwhat they called "badges" .

 
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16 December 2008 16:02
 

Doug Welsh;65191 wrote:

A feminine form for a ship named for a lady.  Makes sense.  Both the RN and the RCN used lozenges forwhat they called "badges" .


Yes the Lozenges in the RN and RCN where used prior to 1940 (when it was decided that all Ship’s badges should be Round*) to designate Sloops and auxiliary Vessels, including Submarines and Aircraft Carriers. Today the shape is used by shore-bases and other installations ashore.

 

 

*the execption being Ships of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary (RFA), who uses the pentagonal shape (point downards) previously used by Cruisers.

 
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16 December 2008 16:16
 

Marcus K;65186 wrote:

I have no clue of why this is the case. On the TIOH site the sinister canton is not mentioned but shown in the painting.


It not uncommon common to use a canton in US military arms.  It is sometimes blazoned in a second sentence as "On a canton is a device from the arms of the parent organization."  The placement of the canton seems to be fluid, but my guess is that they don’t want to obscure bends, so the sinister side was used more often and became accepted even on arms without a bend.

 
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11 July 2009 12:20
 

The very elegant, almost Scandinavian-looking, arms of the USCGC Bear, a medium-endurance cutter named after the original revenue cutter Bear, which served as the de facto seat of government for the Alaskan islands from 1886-1926.  Hence, presumably, the polar bear.

http://www.uscg.mil/lantarea/cgcBear/img/bearlogo.gif

 
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13 July 2010 05:50
 

The TIOH has added the Arms of the USCGC Bernard C. Webber (WPC 1101), USCGC Sea Dog (WPB 87373) and USCGC Joshua Appleby (WLM 556) to the USCG section http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Heraldry/CoastGuard/Cutters.aspx

 
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14 November 2010 09:10
 

One new addition to the TIOH, the Arms of the USCGC Richard Etheridge (WPC 1102). http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Heraldry/CoastGuard/CuttersUnit.aspx?u=7135

 
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