Cinematic Heraldry

 
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09 April 2009 01:45
 

Tonight "On Her Majesty’s Secret Service" is on. I’m having a good time watching it right now…for the umpteenth time!

 
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09 April 2009 07:28
 

For the updates… always amazed me that Fleming incorporated so much about the College of Arms in OHMSS.

However, Bond doesn’t really appeal to 6th graders, so I am relegated to using Harry Potter, Narnia, and Twilight as examples that will keep their little heads from smacking down on their desks from boredom mid-presentation.

 

That, and toss in a bit of Monty Python for variety…

 
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09 April 2009 10:04
 

gselvester;68337 wrote:

Tonight "On Her Majesty’s Secret Service" is on. I’m having a good time watching it right now…for the umpteenth time!


For those who didn’t get to watch it, I’ve got two recent blog entries with photographs from the movie with Blofeld’s arms, and another of the dust cover of the novel On Her Majesty’s Secret Service with the Bond arms on them, at http://blog.appletonstudios.com

 

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09 April 2009 13:15
 

Has anyone else seen the seal for the fictional city of Pawnee, IN, for the new TV show "Parks and Recreation"?

http://www.pawneeindiana.com/

 

Chopped down trees and a hunter stepping on a dead bison. Classic!

 
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30 April 2009 17:49
 

Well it wasn’t quite heraldic but rather fun.

Returning to James Bond I just saw the latest movie in the series Quantum of Solace. In the opening scen there was a quick glimps of the Heraldic banners displayed at the opening of the Palio in the Italian City of Siena.

 
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01 May 2009 01:47
 

Ran across this one in the television series "Hornblower".  Rousing tails of Horatio Hornblower gleaned from the books by C.S. Forester.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/blueoceanbob/Heraldry/Hornblower_E2-01.png

 

This is what could be some rendition of the Arms of England. wink  It appears on the bulkhead of the HMS Indefatigable.  I would just like to comment on the interesting depiction of the Lion and the Unicorn.  Very cool.  :cool:

 
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01 May 2009 01:56
 

I remember watching some of those shows years ago. I rather liked them.

 
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02 May 2009 00:37
 

Robert Tucker;68802 wrote:

Ran across this one in the television series "Hornblower".  Rousing tails of Horatio Hornblower gleaned from the books by C.S. Forester.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/blueoceanbob/Heraldry/Hornblower_E2-01.png

 

This is what could be some rendition of the Arms of England. wink  It appears on the bulkhead of the HMS Indefatigable.  I would just like to comment on the interesting depiction of the Lion and the Unicorn.  Very cool.  :cool:

British Naval tradition is to "take toasts" while seated, due to a distinct lack of headroom in early days.  It could be the unusual positioning of the "supporters" is/was a deference to that tradition - "If the Officers cannot stand to toast their King (and it was "king" in Hornblower’s day), then the royal supporters cannot stand either!"  Actually sounds like something a "certain type" might come up with.

 
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02 May 2009 01:14
 

Doug Welsh;68828 wrote:

British Naval tradition is to "take toasts" while seated, due to a distinct lack of headroom in early days. It could be the unusual positioning of the "supporters" is/was a deference to that tradition - "If the Officers cannot stand to toast their King (and it was "king" in Hornblower’s day), then the royal supporters cannot stand either!" Actually sounds like something a "certain type" might come up with.


I doubt that the explanation is anything so elaborate.  Before the late 19th century, artists took a great deal of liberty in how supporters were depicted, especially unofficial artists.  Perhaps the TV set designers (surprisingly) did their research.

 

Arms of Pennsylvania on the standard of the 7th Pennsylvania Cavalry (Civil War period):

http://bellsouthpwp.net/7/t/7th-pa-cavalry/flag2.gif

 

Same arms on a City of Pittsburgh bond issued in 1910:

http://www.scripophily.com/webcart/vigs/cityofpittsburghvig.jpg

 
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24 May 2009 21:59
 

Another good one for the 6th graders would be the Tony Stark coat of arms from the latest Iron Man film. I tried - for about 2 hours - to figure out how to take a screen shot of the film but to no avail.

It can be found in an early scene where Tony Stark and his air force friend are on his private jet. The arms are painted on the wall: Sable, a double-headed eagle displayed argent, on a chief of the second three mullets of the first - or something like that.

 
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26 May 2009 16:24
 

Nice catch Jeremy!  :D

And your blazon is spot on!  :cool:

 
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26 May 2009 16:45
 

We did a thread on this about a year ago http://americanheraldry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4131&highlight=ironman when the movie came out but none of us could find an image of it. Thanks for the screen shot!

 
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27 May 2009 08:17
 

Awesome! How were you able to take a screen shot of the movie? When ever I pasted it, the screen was black where the movie was supposed to be.

Reading your other thread, Fr. Guy - I was also unsure about the colors. It’s either sable or a very dark azure. Do any graphic novel fans know if these arms show up in any earlier appearances of Iron Man?

 
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27 May 2009 11:08
 

The addition of an "Iron Man" reference is much appreciated! After dragging these 6th graders through some of the minutiae of heraldry, it’s nice to finish on examples to which they can relate.

 
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27 May 2009 11:45
 

It would be interesting to know how the set designer and/or director went about deciding what the coat of arms would be. Did they take something that was in the comic book? Did they base it on some particular existing arms?