New Issue of The Coat of Arms

 
Joseph McMillan
 
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08 January 2010 22:09
 

Members of the Heraldry Society (of London) will want to take a look at the new issue of The Coat of Arms for the article on heraldry and the internet.  There is a quite complimentary discussion of the AHS website, as well as of the heraldry blogs of our colleagues Kimon Andreou and Guy Selvester.

(There’s also an article on "American Guild Arms in the Constitutional Processions of 1788," which has its origins in a thread here on this forum, but mentioning the author’s name would be bragging.)

 
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08 January 2010 23:36
 

cool.

 
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09 January 2010 09:31
 

Wow!

Can’t wait to receive my copy!

 
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09 January 2010 13:26
 

Having read the article I was a little surprised by the authors feelings regarding heraldry in general on the internet. While he gave much credit to the Royal Heraldry Society of Canada and singled out various one man blogs as useful resorces, I feel he was rather pessimistic, or thought the rest of the available Heraldic web sites were under performing, especially from an educational point of view.

He did not cover in his article that of heraldic message boards, preferring to leave this subject for a future article. In my opinion had he included this in his overall assessment of heraldry on the internet he may have reached a more positive conclusion.

 

Regards…...................  Peter

 
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09 January 2010 13:56
 

Peter, I agree.  I also thought he was a little Anglocentric—the Heraldry Society and College of Arms websites are among the most under-achieving of the heraldic presence on the Web, so giving them so much attention compared to others outside the Anglosphere gave a somewhat negative cast to the whole article.  Still, it’s more positive than a similar piece would have been, say, 10 years ago.

 
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09 January 2010 16:11
 

Sounds great!  I look forward to reading the article soon.  :D

Take care,

 
 
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10 January 2010 13:14
 

Joseph McMillan;74255 wrote:

There is a quite complimentary discussion of the AHS website, as well as of the heraldry blogs of our colleagues Kimon Andreou and Guy Selvester.


And, I should have mentioned (but scanned the article too quickly) of David Appleton’s as well.

 
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10 January 2010 19:39
 

It would be great to copy the article

for those members who do not subscribe to the

"The Coat of Arms"

Thank you in advance!

!!!

 
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10 January 2010 19:42
 

Frank Martinoff;74307 wrote:

It would be great to copy the article

for those members who do not subscribe to the

"The Coat of Arms"

Thank you in advance!

!!!


2nd that

 
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11 January 2010 08:28
 

I’m willing to put my article up on my personal webspace for people to see, but am concerned about violating the Heraldry Society’s (or the author’s) copyright by posting the one on heraldry and the internet.  Quoting the paragraph on the AHS would probably be within the realm of fair use.

 
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11 January 2010 11:18
 

Joseph McMillan;74316 wrote:

I’m willing to put my article up on my personal webspace for people to see, but am concerned about violating the Heraldry Society’s (or the author’s) copyright by posting the one on heraldry and the internet.  Quoting the paragraph on the AHS would probably be within the realm of fair use.

 


Seems ironic that an article about heraldry on the Internet is not available on the Internet.

 
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11 January 2010 15:11
 

There’s no such thing as a free lunch.

 
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17 January 2010 05:50
 

Would it be worth asking the author’s and/or Society’s permission.  Might generate some more interest if some of us saw it?

 
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18 January 2010 11:09
 

Here’s what Jack Carlson has to say about the AHS site in "Internet Heraldry:  Advantages, Shortcomings and Unused Potential," in the autumn 2009 issue of The Coat of Arms:


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The American Heraldry Society must deal with some further challenges [compared with the RHSC]; it has no heraldic authority with which to collaborate and none on which it can depend to explain American heraldry on its own website.  Out of necessity then, the American Heraldry Society presents ‘key documents’ on heraldry in the United States and a set of ‘guidelines for heraldic practice’ on its site; it also offers a series of fascinating illustrated articles analogous to those uploaded by the Heraldry Society of Scotland.

 

 
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18 January 2010 12:00
 

Kathy McClurg;74400 wrote:

Would it be worth asking the author’s and/or Society’s permission.  Might generate some more interest if some of us saw it?


Well, you could always join the Society and subscribe to it. It think that’s the point of keeping it off the internet. There are supposed to be some perks to joining a group. Why should they give it away for free when it’s members are the ones who make it possible by paying for it?

 
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18 January 2010 13:45
 

In fact, I gather there was a bit of a flap among members when the society started putting back-issues of the newsletter, The Heraldry Gazette, on the website.