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03 July 2012 16:31
 

Kenneth - as always, you’re awesome for putting these together (and so quickly!).

I do like the design.  And, even though the border is not necessary, I actually kind of like it.  I guess I could go either way but I don’t mind but the border as much as I thought I would.

 
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03 July 2012 17:28
 

Thanks good advice

 
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03 July 2012 17:40
 

WOW!!! that was fast

you are right (that’s I asked the experts!)

It looks just as good without the bordure.

Now remember I did say stylized @begining of post

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9066/slide1withoutname.jpg

 
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03 July 2012 17:42
 

And I’m happy that my blazon was a bit wordy but it did at least give a good idea of the COA

 
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03 July 2012 17:47
 

Mr. Mansfield

you have skills!!!!

 
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03 July 2012 18:15
 

Wow I wanted to have one created that’s more Mideval (traditional) looking with same basic design and you just showed me that it’s possible

"The problem for me is that it is simply too overt. That’s what t-shirts and bumper stickers are for, not coats of arms IMHO."

 

Does mine fit this description?

 
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03 July 2012 19:23
 

The one thing you didn’t mention in your original post is that you want the two choughs facing each other. The default position for animal charges is facing to the dexter (viewer’s left) as a typical shield carried on the left arm would put the animals facing forward in this regard.

A revised blazon would be Per pale Argent and Azure on a Chevron between in chief two Choughs combatant rising wings addorsed and elevated and in base a Tower three annulets all within a bordure counterchanged.

 

Your rendering is stylized, but any emblazonment of your coat of arms, stylized or not, is still the same coat of arms. Unlike a logo a coat of arms does not depend on a particular drawing.

 
 
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03 July 2012 19:26
 

hollywood1765;94426 wrote:

WOW!!! that was fast

you are right (that’s I asked the experts!)

It looks just as good without the bordure.

Now remember I did say stylized @begining of post

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9066/slide1withoutname.jpg


Do you want the choughs facing each other or like Kenneth’s rendition?  I agree the border is over kill and I generally believe less is more particularly on first assumptions unless there is specific meaning to the design/charges.

 

Like Jesse, I like to know the reasoning behind the assumption, if you are willing.

 
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03 July 2012 19:44
 

OK I understand that now I meant to put "respectant" (thanks for correcting combatant is what I was looking for) but I pasted incomplete blazon

from what I’ve read from different sites

 

the argent crows chevron and tower all represent some form of serenity, protection,stability, and strategy And I’d like to think those are qualities I possess

 

the annulets fedelity which I beleive in STRONGLY (I KNOW CORNY)

 

and believe it or not the color scheme and overall style is just reminiscent of (don’t laugh) my childhood hero Batman (even the mantling)and the Dallas Cowboys

 
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03 July 2012 19:49
 

Also should it be "On a wreath of Argent and Azure, a bat displayed proper (sable)"

 
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03 July 2012 19:55
 

Wow Kathy McClurg your shield is great! I still have a LOT to learn

I love the you have it emblazoned by different artists

 
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03 July 2012 20:17
 

hollywood1765;94434 wrote:

OK I understand that now I meant to put "respectant" (thanks for correcting combatant is what I was looking for) but I pasted incomplete blazon


Combatant and respectant are really the same thing and respectant may be the better word here. Combatant is used for beasts and ferocious animals and respectant usually for ... um ... herbivores? Not sure where on the continuum a chough fits.


hollywood1765;94435 wrote:

Also should it be "On a wreath of Argent and Azure, a bat displayed proper (sable)"


I would say On a wreath of the colors a Bat displayed Sable. Bats aren’t really black, are they? So proper won’t work.

 
 
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03 July 2012 20:19
 

hahaha true

 
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03 July 2012 21:58
 

One last Question should blazon state that chevron is conjoined to the bordure

or is that understood

I also think that my more traditional arms might not have the bordure now I’m undecided

 
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03 July 2012 22:36
 

hollywood1765;94443 wrote:

One last Question should blazon state that chevron is conjoined to the bordure

or is that understood

I also think that my more traditional arms might not have the bordure now I’m undecided


It’s understood.  What do you mean by your "more traditional arms"?  Do you mean you’ll use two different arms?  You might be able to achieve a more traditional look with a different rendition of the same arms.  Don’t make up two coats of arms - they’re generally one to a person.