A lot of Naval ships Arms (which unfortunantly they call crests) can be found Here

Some really nice one’s in here too

I really like how some the cruisers use weapons with flaming pommels as symbols for their missile capabilities…

http://www.surfpac.navy.mil/photos/ships/ships_crests/port_royal.jpg

http://www.surfpac.navy.mil/photos/ships/ships_crests/bunker_hill.jpg

ooo this one’s good too… clever motto:

dread nought ~ dreadnought

http://www.surfpac.navy.mil/photos/ships/ships_crests/rentz.gif

ESmith wrote:

I really like how some the cruisers use weapons with flaming pommels as symbols for their missile capabilities…

http://www.surfpac.navy.mil/photos/ships/ships_crests/port_royal.jpg

http://www.surfpac.navy.mil/photos/ships/ships_crests/bunker_hill.jpg

The missles are called trident so a flaming trident is very apropriate

Actually, these cruisers do not carry Trident missiles.  Trident is the name of the current generation of submarine-launched, nuclear-armed ballistic missiles.  Ticonderoga-class cruisers (and Burke-class destroyers) are armed with Standard air defense missiles and Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles.

Some arms also includes the Octagon shield of the AEGIS-system, ie.the Crest of the USS Port Royal.

Joseph McMillan wrote:

Actually, these cruisers do not carry Trident missiles.  Trident is the name of the current generation of submarine-launched, nuclear-armed ballistic missiles.  Ticonderoga-class cruisers (and Burke-class destroyers) are armed with Standard air defense missiles and Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles.

One supposes that the reason for the flaming trident is only that the trident was (is?) held by Neptune.

Daniel C. Boyer wrote:

One supposes that the reason for the flaming trident is only that the trident was (is?) held by Neptune.

I think that’s probably right—the trident is chosen as the symbol of sea power,* the addition of flames at the base of the staff to suggest a missile.

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*The trident appears in much USN heraldry for this very reason.  Also, it is used as a metaphor for sea power in the motto of the US Naval Academy, "Ex scientia, tridens"—From knowledge, sea power.

Unfortunately, it’s hard to find the USNA arms in color, but they show a galley under sail affronty on waves of the sea, with a solid base below the waves charged with an open book.

http://www.usna.com/classes/1972/_borders/LOGO.gif

for more naval ship arms (old and new) go here :

http://www.navysite.de/ships.htm

some of the pages even have an explanation.

Joseph McMillan wrote:

I think that’s probably right—the trident is chosen as the symbol of sea power,* the addition of flames at the base of the staff to suggest a missile.

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*The trident appears in much USN heraldry for this very reason.  Also, it is used as a metaphor for sea power in the motto of the US Naval Academy, "Ex scientia, tridens"—From knowledge, sea power.

 

Unfortunately, it’s hard to find the USNA arms in color, but they show a galley under sail affronty on waves of the sea, with a solid base below the waves charged with an open book.

 

http://www.usna.com/classes/1972/_borders/LOGO.gif

I’m not sure what you mean by the base being solid—is it different from a base wavy crested of some tincture?  What then would the blazon be?

Would anyone have any insight about the field division in these arms?

emrys wrote:

for more naval ship arms (old and new) go here :

http://www.navysite.de/ships.htm

some of the pages even have an explanation.

Valuable though this resource is the vague and sometimes misleading "explanations" bug me—why not just use blazon?

Daniel C. Boyer wrote:

Valuable though this resource is the vague and sometimes misleading "explanations" bug me—why not just use blazon?

Because a blazon is not an explanation?

As for the field division, I believe it looks like four piles wavy palewise Bleu Celeste fimbriated Or.  Maybe it could also be blazoned as per fess rayonny of four upward points.

Joseph McMillan wrote:

Because a blazon is not an explanation?

I know, but what I’m talking about is these "explanations" that are used as a substitute for blazons.  They should either use a blazon or just skip the verbiage and show the emblazonment alone.

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As for the field division, I believe it looks like four piles wavy palewise Bleu Celeste fimbriated Or.  Maybe it could also be blazoned as per fess rayonny of four upward points.

Thank you.

Greetings all,

I would suggest that the ‘background’ would be better blazoned as -

"Gules, four piles wavy issuing from base azure fimbriated or ..... ".

Piles are, by definition, palewise unless otherwise blazoned.

I would suggest also that the piles should be azure rather than bleu celeste - unless a formal blazon states otherwise.

Regards,

Iain Boyd

Good point about the piles, Iain. Thanks.

In principle, you’d also be right about saying "azure" in the absence of an official blazon to the contrary.  I said bleu celeste because USN ship arms are almost invariably emblazoned with azure shown as very dark blue, and because the reference to the UN is lost if the piles are shown as anything but sky blue, but obviously we could only know for sure if we saw the official TIOH blazon.