position of buffalo heads

 
Daniel C. Boyer
 
Avatar
 
 
Daniel C. Boyer
Total Posts:  1104
Joined  16-03-2005
 
 
 
13 August 2007 13:28
 

The position of the buffalo heads at http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Spt/136SupportBattalion.htm is not adequately blazoned and the blazon as written would give the reader a distinct misimpression.

 
David Pritchard
 
Avatar
 
 
David Pritchard
Total Posts:  2058
Joined  26-01-2007
 
 
 
13 August 2007 15:52
 

"two buffalo heads addorsed"

This is an interesting way to blazon the heads. The blazoning of fish or the wings of a bird usually come to mind when I see the term "addorsed" and on further thought can something be addorsed if there is an ordinary in between?

 

I think the problem here is that the arms were designed by an artist, who can imagine a large variety of designs without limit, rather than a herald who only imagines the designs that he or she can blazon.

 

 
Kelisli
 
Avatar
 
 
Kelisli
Total Posts:  570
Joined  13-08-2006
 
 
 
13 August 2007 22:57
 

I have heard of bows addorsed as well.  Now, looking at the arms, I think these are more like: "two buffalo heads issuing from a pale," but I could be way off.

Cheers,

Hassan

 
Patrick Williams
 
Avatar
 
 
Patrick Williams
Total Posts:  1356
Joined  29-07-2006
 
 
 
14 August 2007 08:40
 

I always think of addorsed meaning overlapping. Aren’t these buffalo heads conjoined at the neck by a key double warded palewise?

 
Patrick Williams
 
Avatar
 
 
Patrick Williams
Total Posts:  1356
Joined  29-07-2006
 
 
 
14 August 2007 08:49
 

No, no, I was looking at the Distinctive Unit Insignia.


Quote:

Shield:  Buff, on a pale Celeste a double-warded key palewise wards to base Argent between in chief two buffalo heads addorsed of the like armed and garnished of the field, overall a fountain at fess point.


Well, they’re not addorsed AND they’re not conjoined, unless the blazon was: Buff in chief two buffalo heads conjoined at the neck Argent over all upon a pale Celeste charged with a double-warded key palewise wards to base of the second (is Silver permissable?) a Fountain at fess point.

 
Daniel C. Boyer
 
Avatar
 
 
Daniel C. Boyer
Total Posts:  1104
Joined  16-03-2005
 
 
 
14 August 2007 11:14
 

Patrick Williams;48592 wrote:

No, no, I was looking at the Distinctive Unit Insignia.

 

 

Well, they’re not addorsed AND they’re not conjoined, unless the blazon was: Buff in chief two buffalo heads conjoined at the neck Argent over all upon a pale Celeste charged with a double-warded key palewise wards to base of the second (is Silver permissable?) a Fountain at fess point.


I think this would be closest to being a correct blazon—it’s a better job than I could have done, at any rate.

 
David Pritchard
 
Avatar
 
 
David Pritchard
Total Posts:  2058
Joined  26-01-2007
 
 
 
14 August 2007 16:42
 

Daniel C. Boyer;48601 wrote:

I think this would be closest to being a correct blazon—it’s a better job than I could have done, at any rate.


I agree totally with Daniel. Patrick has done a fine job with this blazon. Perhaps he should consider a move to Northern Virginia so that he may work at the Institute of Heraldry as their designated blasonnière*.

 

 

*A French word of my own creation, as far as I know.<b></b>

 
Patrick Williams
 
Avatar
 
 
Patrick Williams
Total Posts:  1356
Joined  29-07-2006
 
 
 
14 August 2007 17:02
 

Thanks, but you know the saying: "Every now and then even a blind squirrel gets a nut."