Terry,
I’m not seeing the NSCS arms, but if you’re referring to "Per fess wavy Ermine and Azure," those are actually the arms of the Supply Corps itself. A very elegant design—the crest is an escallop Azure surmounting two crossed sabers, and if memory serves the supporters are sea griffins, or is it one sea lion and one sea griffin? Motto, "Ready for sea."
My first job with the government 30 years ago was working for Supply Corps organizations. There used to be a very large polychromed carving of these arms in the lobby of the Naval Supply Systems Command in Arlington, VA, before the command moved to Mechanicsburg, PA. I did an emblazonment in colored inks on (imitation) parchment as a farewell gift for someone way back when.
Joseph McMillan;54082 wrote:
Terry,
I’m not seeing the NSCS arms, but if you’re referring to "Per fess wavy Ermine and Azure," those are actually the arms of the Supply Corps itself. A very elegant design—the crest is an escallop Azure surmounting two crossed sabers, and if memory serves the supporters are sea griffins, or is it one sea lion and one sea griffin? Motto, "Ready for sea."
Yes Sir, that is the one. The school has the Supply Corps arms circled with "NSCS". Your memory is very good! Supporters are one sea lion and one sea griffin. All of my time on AD was spent shipboard. I can post tons of ships logos but those are hardly COA’s 
I believe the Naval Submarine Medical Research Laboratory (NSMRL) has an interesting COA but I have been unable to find a large enough image of it to share.
Here’s the image; I copied it to my own web space. The DoD info security people have evidently done something that has screwed up the certificates for a lot of .mil sites.
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeohzt4/NavySC.gif
Note that the dexter supporter is actually a regular terrestrial griffin—we were both a little off! Also, the torse should be Argent and Azure, not Gules and Azure.
Too bad so many people think they need to surround well designed arms with superfluous words and circlets.
Terry;54084 wrote:
I can post tons of ships logos but those are hardly COA’s
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6415/ordctrschooldevuo1.gif
The full CoA of the Ordnance School or Device as the TIOH calls it. Approved on 22 November 1940, the Colours are those of the Ordnance Department. The grenade represents the student body and the lamp knowledge. The burning grenade in the crest denotes the trained personel leaving the school. The motto translates as "Add to the flame".
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7743/missilemunitionctrschooiy4.gif
U.S. Army Missile and Munitions Center and School. The symbolism is selfevident. The Motto translates as "Knowledge For Righteousness". Originaly approved for the U.S. Army Ordnance Guided Missile School on 27 September 1954 and redesignated for the U.S. Army Missile and Munitions Center and School on 18 February 1966.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1528/image1199yi2.gif
U.S. Army Signal Center and Fort Grodon and U.S. Army Signal School.
"Symbolism: The shield and charge are the colors of the Signal Corps. The torch has a dual significance: a device of the Signal Corps and the emblem of knowledge of The Signal School. As indicated by the crest, the Signal Corps has grasped the lightning from the heavens and applied it to military communication.
Background: The device was originally approved for the Signal School, Camp Alfred Vail, NJ, on 23 Mar 1925. It was redesignated for the Signal School, Fort Monmouth, NJ, the Southeastern Signal School, Camp Gordon, GA and other Signal Corps Schools on 30 Jun 1954. On 16 Dec 1954 the insignia was amended to extend authorization for wear to the 9614th Technical Service Unit, Signal Corps Electronics Training Detachment and the 9615th Technical Service Unit, Signal Corps Electronics Training Detachment. The insignia was redesignated for the U.S. Army Signal School, Fort Gordon, GA and the U.S. Army Communications Electronics School, Fort Monmouth NJ, on 21 Apr 1975. The device was amended on 14 Jun 1976 to revise the blazon of the crest."
The Motto translates as "Watchful for the Country".
Most USAF training is carried out under the auspices of the Air Education and Training Command (the parent command of Air University, whose arms I posted earlier).
Actual training is run by the wings, groups, and squadrons subordinate to AETC. Wings and groups have coats of arms; squadrons have circular badges. (Note: most of these arms date back to flying groups from the WWII period; there’s pretty much a direct correlation between age of the arms and heraldic quality.)
17th Training Wing, Goodfellow AFB, TX (cryptological, intelligence, related fields)
http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/rso/images/wings_groups_images/0017trw.jpg
37th Training Wing, Lackland AFB, TX (the biggest and most diverse USAF training establishment, covering everything from basic military training to security forces and contracting)
http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/rso/images/wings_groups_images/0037trw.gif
81st Training Wing, Keesler AFB, MS (another diverse assortment, from personnel and admin to aircraft and electronics maintenance. The thing carried in the dragon’s dexter claw is a boll weevil.)
http://www.keesler.af.mil/shared/media/ggallery/webgraphic/AFG-061011-010.jpg
Two more:
82nd Training Wing, Sheppard AFB, TX
http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/rso/images/wings_groups_images/0082trw.jpg
381st Training Group, Vandenberg AFB, CA
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usaf/images/381trg.gif
Joseph McMillan;54101 wrote:
37th Training Wing, Lackland AFB, TX (the biggest and most diverse USAF training establishment, covering everything from basic military training to security forces and contracting)
http://www.au.af.mil/au/afhra/rso/images/wings_groups_images/0037trw.gif
All I can think of when I see this coat is the Standard of the Appin Regiment that fought at Culloden in 1746, one of the few remaining Jacobite standards to survive…
http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/trlout/TRA23255.html
I’m sure the gold saltire on blue was not only used by the Regiment, but I will always associate the two (I don’t know whether the light blue on the standard was deliberate, actually even that color in 1746, based solely on the quality of blue available but supposed to be darker, or whether it is due to deterioration). I suppose that given the US military use of blue celeste in other badges, if the Appin Regiment "light" blue was deliberate, this could be considered a difference.
Clearly not based on any shared history, just what I see when I look at it.
Ramblings…
Kyle=
I think it is a poor choice regardless of whether or not it is exactly as the Appin Regiment’s. I would think there would be very little chance that Azure a saltire Or would not have been used by someone somewhere already.
kmansfield;54112 wrote:
I think it is a poor choice regardless of whether or not it is exactly as the Appin Regiment’s. I would think there would be very little chance that Azure a saltire Or would not have been used by someone somewhere already.
kmansfield;54112 wrote:
I think it is a poor choice regardless of whether or not it is exactly as the Appin Regiment’s. I would think there would be very little chance that Azure a saltire Or would not have been used by someone somewhere already.
Well, (a) the Appin Regiment’s standard is not a coat of arms, and, in any case (b) "used by someone somewhere already" is not a barrier to official use somewhere else in a different country. These are also the arms of the family of de Messey in the Charolais region of France, and of the town of Biguglia in Corsica, the Barons Thiriart von Muetzhagen in the Rhineland, the Italian family of Sanframondo, and undoubtedly a number of others.
I would say that different rules apply to what we adopting arms personally should do and what an official heraldic body can do. It’s very likely that at least one of the families listed above was using these arms before the College of Arms granted them to St. Albans, and I know what the College would say if someone objected to the grant on that basis: so what?
That said, I probably would have looked for something to make the arms more distinctive had I been designing or approving them.
Air Force Institute of Technology, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH:
I think the cogwheel in chief used to be just a cogwheel; not sure when someone decided to muck it up by making it "atomic."
If I can remember where I left off:
Quartermaster School, Ft. Lee, VA (The field is blazoned as buff, the principal branch color of the corps. Not a very good design, in my opinion, but the QM museum at Ft. Lee has a marvelous collection of insignia, much of it heraldic, that is worth a visit if you’re in the area.)
http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Schools/Image1174.gif
Recruiting and Retention School
http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Schools/Image1178.gif
Sergeants Major Academy (I think someone posted this before.)
http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Schools/Image1195.gif
Transportation School, Ft. Eustis, VA. Just awful.
Yes Joe you are right the CoA of the Sergeant Major’s Academy have been posted before. I did post a different version here http://americanheraldry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3330
