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22 February 2008 13:22
 

From the website of the said Society

http://www.stgeorgessociety.org/images/ArmorialBearings.jpg

 

Read the explanation of the CoA here http://www.stgeorgessociety.org/coatofarms.php

 
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22 February 2008 14:17
 

What a handsome achievement! Great use of ancient charges in new ways. :p

 
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22 February 2008 14:30
 

This is quite striking - a handsome achievement, indeed!  I particulary like how the voided space between the demi garbs mimics the outline of the lower portion of an eagle displayed.

 
 
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22 February 2008 21:45
 

"ARMS: Argent a Cross Gules cotised by eight demi Garbs heads outwards Azure."

Blazon interpretation help….

 

OK, I guess I have never seen "cortised" used with charges.  Is this an innovation?  And I am not sure how an artist can assume that "demi-garb" means a garb sliced ear to root, instead of horizontally.  Shouldn’t it be "demi-garbs divided palewise heads outwards"?

 
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23 February 2008 00:57
 

In the language of blazon doesn’t "demi" (as in demitiated) automatically mean divided in half vertically? That wouldn’t totally clarify the garbs but it would take care of part of it.

 
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23 February 2008 02:35
 

gselvester;54614 wrote:

In the language of blazon doesn’t "demi" (as in demitiated) automatically mean divided in half vertically? That wouldn’t totally clarify the garbs but it would take care of part of it.

A demilion rampant is divided horizontally.

 
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23 February 2008 09:30
 

beautiful design

 
Michael Swanson
 
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23 February 2008 11:01
 

gselvester;54614 wrote:

In the language of blazon doesn’t "demi" (as in demitiated) automatically mean divided in half vertically? That wouldn’t totally clarify the garbs but it would take care of part of it.


No, I don’t think so.  But I don’t yet grasp the rule.  Here is a demi-fleur:

 

http://lh6.google.com/wichtcoza/RmMbxUNZNFI/AAAAAAAAAI4/UNIn3gq-8Hg/s288/Wicht crest 1.jpg

 

But here is a demi virgin in the crest (A demi Virgin in a gown Gules):

 

http://www.heraldicmedia.com/site/info/livery/livcoarms/goldsms.gif

 

A demi wheel:

 

http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Graphics/332TransBnCOA.jpg

 

And a demi sun:

 

http://www.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/ProjectPics/iv271_20000019_arms_wilfrid.jpg

 
Kenneth Mansfield
 
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23 February 2008 11:01
 

Madalch;54617 wrote:

A demilion rampant is divided horizontally.


The demilion is the lion, in its natural state of all-fours, divided vertically. Then what’s left is rampant. It is is demilion rampant, not a demilion rampant, if that makes sense.

 
 
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23 February 2008 11:09
 

I think "cotised" is just a typo.  What they meant to say was "Cochised," referring to the sinister supporter, "garbed Azure," i.e., dressed in blue clothes.

Since the blazon is said to be determinative, rather than the emblazonment, this means the cross is supposed to be flanked by demi-Apache Indians dressed in blue.

 
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23 February 2008 12:23
 

gselvester;54614 wrote:

In the language of blazon doesn’t "demi" (as in demitiated) automatically mean divided in half vertically? That wouldn’t totally clarify the garbs but it would take care of part of it.


For what it’s worth, Friar’s Dictionary of Heraldry says that demi means "only the upper half is depicted."

 
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23 February 2008 13:01
 

According to Parker’s A Glossary of Terms Used in Heraldry:

Demi, or Demy, i.e. fr. for half: when applied to an animal, its upper or fore half is always intended; when any thing inanimate, generally the dexter half per pale.

Demi-fleur-de-lis. The fleur-de-lis may be divided either per pale or per fesse; the former is usually intended.

A demi-lion may be passant, rampant, or in any of the other positions.

According to Brooke-Little’s An Heraldic Alphabet:

Demi A prefix applied to any charge which has been bisected and of which only one half (usually the upper, front or dexter portion) is shown.

 
 
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23 February 2008 13:51
 

Joseph McMillan;54629 wrote:

I think "cotised" is just a typo.  What they meant to say was "Cochised," referring to the sinister supporter, "garbed Azure," i.e., dressed in blue clothes.

Since the blazon is said to be determinative, rather than the emblazonment, this means the cross is supposed to be flanked by demi-Apache Indians dressed in blue.


Please.  Cochised.  Give me a break.  rolleyes rolleyes

 
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23 February 2008 15:09
 

Joseph, you may frighten the audience, everyone believes you smile

Meanwhile it seems that in the blazon (Argent a Cross Gules cotised by eight demi Garbs heads outwards Azure) the words "heads outwards" are stressing the direction of the demi-garbs (parallel to the cross’ arms), making more or less apparent what part of a garb is shewn.

(When writing blazons is one’s daily business :banghead: , one tries to make them as brief as possible, sometimes overestimating the obviousness of what is being implied.)

 
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