Hi All,
As you all will remember a short time ago everyone helped me on my first round of creating a COA for myself. The result of that was Gules three roses in pale Argent barbed and seeded proper in dexter flank two pallets Argent This has been sitting on my fridge and as the backdrop on my computer ever since as I evaluate and think about it.
I still really like this, but in light of my recent trip to Scotland, I have come back with some new ideas which I would like to share and get your opinions on. Before I finalize my COA I would like to have reviewed all options. I would be thankful for your assistance once again.
Please feel free to correct my blazon if (when) I have made a mistake.
1st thought….(I really like this one)
Argent three Piles Wavy Gules, on a Chief Gules three roses Argent barbed and seeded proper
2nd thought
Argent, three Cheveronels, braced in the Base of the Escocheon Gules, on a Chief gules three roses Argent barbed and seeded proper
3rd thought….(not so sure about…almost a bit Capt. America in my mind)
paly of five Argent and Gules, on a chief Gules three roses Argent
And to answer the question I am sure you are thinking…yes, I like the look of 3 roses in chief.
Note: any duplication of a known COA is completely accidental - please point it out and I will either change or remove the thought
Could you describe the appearance of No. 2? The blazon is a little odd sounding and I can’t quite get a mental image of what your idea is. Also, a paly needs to be an even number. I believe it should be blazoned argent five pallets gules.
Dcgb7f;55455 wrote:
Could you describe the appearance of No. 2? The blazon is a little odd sounding and I can’t quite get a mental image of what your idea is. Also, a paly needs to be an even number. I believe it should be blazoned argent five pallets gules.
Or is what is meant Argent two pales Gules?
Hi Daniel,
Thank you for your input and guidance concerning the paly. I image in my mind was 5 bars up and down argent and gules. With the thought of paly needing to be an even number, in my minds eye, a paly of 6 argent and gules might look nice.
As per thought two this is what I was trying to describe for the cheveronels.
The reference book I used is a (online) copy of A DISPLAY OF HERALDRIE: by John Guillim (c1551 - 1621) (real copy has been ordered from Barter Books…so excited ) - Needless to say I used terms from this to try and blazon. Sorry for being confusing.
Fr. Byers - You are correct sir. This is what I was trying to describe. Sorry for the mistake and thank you for the guidance.
Respectfully,
Terry
In an effort to try to get some more opinions I am posting an image (rather bad images) of thoughts 1 and 2. I know we went through this a bit ago with some poor designs so I understand if no one wants to post thoughts. Just post up and let me know I should knock it off.
#2 looks rather nice.
I agree that #2 is very nice. I don’t know if it’s just that depiction, but #1 seems a bit…gory.
Jonathan R. Baker;55529 wrote:
I agree that #2 is very nice. I don’t know if it’s just that depiction, but #1 seems a bit…gory.
I think it is just the depiction. I am not very good with computer graphic tools and I was having an issue with making the pile lines wavy. I think if the lines were more symmetrical it would look a lot better.
I know what Jonathan is stating. #1 looks a bit like blood running down the shield. But like you say, it could be simply the depiction.
#2 looks best to me. But they’re your arms Terry—go with your gut.
Terry;55522 wrote:
I like the first shield less the roses actually. I assume that the blazon is something like this: Argent, on a chief rayonney of three Gules, three roses Argent, seeded and barbed Proper. I could be wrong here if the shield is actually parted: Per fess rayonney Gules and Argent, three roses Argent seeded and barbed Proper in chief.
The second shield is attractive for a traditional English style shield, but by no means elegant in the French manner.
I agree with David on both counts, but I wonder if the first one would work with two white roses in chief and one red rose in base: Per fess rayonny Gules and Argent three roses counterchanged barbed and seeded proper.
Personally, I still like the asymmetric look of two or three pallets in one flank and the roses in pale in the other.
I also prefer #2, its crisp, identifiable. the first depiction seems more appropriate to the hood of a hot rod
Thank you all for your input and opinions. I know the choice is ultimately mine, but I appreciate the opinions of those much more experienced then myself.
Joseph - I this what you were thinking?
http://omega1.us/personal/new/shield_counter.jpg
I am not sure what you all would think of this, but I also thought maybe adding a double tressure flory-counter-flory sable to the Argent area might make something interesting. Yes I know this is the double tressure flory of Scotland, just a different tincture. If I add this, it is to mildly show my Scottish connection.
Not such deep indentations, I think, and with bigger roses, is what I had in mind.
Terry—
Here is another version of the arms as blazoned by Joseph.
Goodness, Father, you’re quick!