Stephen - Thank you sir.

Kevin - thank you for the input and help.  I will make some adjustments then post again to see if it is more correct proportionally.

Fr. Byers - Thank you sir.  It is a saying a learned a long time ago and the chances are VERY good I forgot spelling, style and syntax.  I would be thankful for any and all help.

werewolves;56584 wrote:

As for your emblazonment, it’s really good.  I have only one small criticism.  The crest should be a little larger in relation to the rest of the design.  I would make it at least the same general size as the helm.

In many early medieval heraldic illustrations the proportions are about 1/3 crest, 1/3 helm and 1/3 shield. The Court of the Lord Lyon still tries to follow these basic proportions on their illustrations but this is not always possible with marshalled arms.

Nice arms, nice crest, nice emblazonment.

I tried making your sea-lion Or, to make him a little more vibrant, but my fill job was unsatisfactory, so I didn’t post it.

Looks nice, though!

Kyle=

Vibrant, unique, and very much "alive"!  Nicely done!  And congratulations!

Terrific job all around Terry. Congrats!

Terry,

I like the crest very much!  :D I would advise using the fridge test (tm) for a few weeks to a month before registering just to make sure you want to keep it.

Take care,

I agree with Philip.  As the old saying goes:  "Assume in haste; regret at your leisure."  Try placing these arms on your fridge until you either come to love them, or until you come to tire of them.  If it turns out that you don’t like these arms, then please let me know.  I have a few family members who would love to assume arms like these! 

Thank you all for your comments and compliments.  Looking back at the very first thread and the jumbled mess that I thought was heraldry, makes me very thankful for all of your help and guidance.  :D

Concerning the Latin….I had to reach out to the only Latinist I know back east.  I hope to hear from him today.

Terry;56747 wrote:

Concerning the Latin….I had to reach out to the only Latinist I know back east.  I hope to hear from him today.

Have you considered Greek?

kimon;56756 wrote:

Have you considered Greek?

I have actually considered that.  But I would need your help.  My parents were second generation, Pappou and YiaYia were dead set on the kids (my dad and the rest) only speaking English as they were now American.  So sadly I never learned as a child.  I am trying to learn now, but it is a slow process.

I believe due to my Surname this would be very fitting

The motto is:

"Honour is the reward of virtue" or as Fr. Byers suggested "the honor of virtue"

Terry;56757 wrote:

I have actually considered that.  But I would need your help.  My parents were second generation, Pappou and YiaYia were dead set on the kids (my dad and the rest) only speaking English as they were now American.  So sadly I never learned as a child.  I am trying to learn now, but it is a slow process.

I believe due to my Surname this would be very fitting

 

"the honor of virtue" would be "Αρετής τιμή" and it’s even mentioned in Aristotle’s "Magna Moralia"  ("Ηθικών Μεγάλων")

 

"Honor is the reward of virtue" would be "Τιμή η ανταμοιβή της αρετής" or "Αρετής ανταμοιβή η τιμή"

 

(unfortunately, I don’t have access to polytonic versions of the above except for the first one, though when capitalized it’s not needed)

Thank you sir!  I am going to try to do a graphic version (something that could be on an emblazonment).  If you wouldn’t mind reviewing it to make sure I didn’t mess it up.

Knowing my luck, I would type it, make a mistake and it would end up saying "honor is the reward of a goat"  :D

Terry;56763 wrote:

Thank you sir!  I am going to try to do a graphic version (something that could be on an emblazonment).  If you wouldn’t mind reviewing it to make sure I didn’t mess it up.

Knowing my luck, I would type it, make a mistake and it would end up saying "honor is the reward of a goat" 

 

 

Since all uppercase is the norm for mottoes, here are the capitalized versions:

 

"ΑΡΕΤΗΣ ΤΙΜΗ"

"ΤΙΜΗ Η ΑΝΤΑΜΟΙΒΗ ΤΗΣ ΑΡΕΤΗΣ"

"ΑΡΕΤΗΣ ΑΝΤΑΜΟΙΒΗ Η ΤΙΜΗ"

kimon;56764 wrote:

Anytime

Terry;56766 wrote:

Question for other members:  Is splitting a motto, top and bottom of the achievement an okay thing to do or is it looked upon unfavorably.

I believe that is more typically done when one is displaying two mottoes. There are customary placements (English, below the achievement; Scottish, above), but I don’t believe there are hard and fast rules on it - certainly nothing that would prevent it in an emblazonment.