What about something like….
http://www.hectorcito.com/heraldry/JayBohn01.gifQuarterly Gules and Azure between four lima beans Or a cross Argent voided of the field counterchanged.
http://www.hectorcito.com/heraldry/JayBohn02.gifQuarterly Gules and Azure between four lima beans Or a cross Or cotised Argent.
Interesting….The second one reminds me of the Swedish royal arms…
Cheers,
Jay Bohn;57553 wrote:
So know the question is, do the lima beans create enough of a difference, or because Iceland is a sovereign state, is anything resembling its arms a presumption? (I certainly wouldn’t like it if someone just added charges to the chief of the U.S. coat of arms.)
Now I have visions of the U.S. flag with lima beans replacing the stars…
MohamedHossam;57558 wrote:
Interesting….The second one reminds me of the Swedish royal arms…
I think you mean the jack of the United Kingdom of Sweden and Norway (1814-1905) as the royal arms look very different.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Unionsgjøs.png
That too, but precisely I meant that it reminded me of the Swedish royal arms, since it has a cross Or, overall and quarters. I should have specified what I meant…..:D
Cheers,
Jay Bohn;57553 wrote:
To me, these two shields look like generic heraldic abominations, more likely to appear at a Society of Creative Anachronism gathering, a Renaissance or Medieval Fair rather than that in an ancient roll-of-arms. Stick with the beans and abandon the elements lacking originallity.
It’s the griffins, eh David? :D
Cheers,
I love the idea of using a lima bean for a charge. But ... As I consider the designs proposed so far on this thread, I am struck by how difficult it is to make this noble legume recognizable. Even relatively large, it still looks like a slightly deflated roundel. What could one add that would bring the lima alive, the way butter, salt and pepper do?
This may not be at all what you’re looking for, Jay, but may I suggest:
Per fess Or and Vert a lima bean sprouting counterchanged — as is more plainly depicted below.
Dohrman Byers;57653 wrote:
Per fess Or and Vert a lima bean sprouting counterchanged — as is more plainly depicted below.
While my approach in most of these design threads has been to coax along the ideas put forth by the would-be armigers, I have to admit this idea is outstanding, Fr. Dohrman.
Dohrman Byers;57653 wrote:
Kenneth Mansfield;57655 wrote:
...this idea is outstanding, Fr. Dohrman.
Fr., I wholeheartedly agree. Recognizable, clean and as elegant as I’ve ever seen a lima bean look.
Dohrman Byers;57653 wrote:
What could one add that would bring the lima alive, the way butter, salt and pepper do?
How many times do I have to say it? Ketchup! 
Dohrman Byers;57653 wrote:
This may not be at all what you’re looking for, Jay, but may I suggest:
Per fess Or and Vert a lima bean sprouting counterchanged — as is more plainly depicted below.
Just shows what you can do with talent. I have to give it a day or so (I’m a little exhausted after being on my feet for three hours at a planning board meeting followed by an hour’s drive home), but I’m inclined to think that you have captured a much better context than just having the limas floating free. It would certainly be distinctive. Thank you.
Fr Dohrman—This is the most creative and original design I’ve seen in a long time—Wonderful! I nominate it for the next design awards cycle!
Father Byers,
A gem of a design! Appropriately Germanic in style. This just proves that while some designs are good heraldry, others are both good heraldry and art. I strongly encourage Mr. Bohn to adopt your proposed design.
I especially like this design,.
Was it intentionally to have the sprout form a cleverly hidden upside down "J" as a cant. I know letters in heraldry are usually (very) frowned upon, but to shape something already in the arms subtly as a first name cant seems very clever.
