Somewhere on this board or in a book I came across mention of a small number of charges that have become associated with cooking, or food and drink, but now I am unable to locate the information.
Can anyone point me to any charges that would be appropriate for a gourmand, and one who was a professional caterer?
No suggestions?
I’ve done a little more searching and I’ve found a few arms with food and drink, but all are rather modern and specific—things like wine and cheese, a cutting board and knife, etc…
I found a couple of arms last night in von Volborth’s "Heraldry: Customs, Rules, and Styles".
I’ll try to find images of them online tonight and post them here.
Some were personal arms but, most were of guilds and associations.
A site with the arms of all the livery companies of London that includes those like the Worshipful Company of Bakers, of Butchers, etc. is here: http://www.heraldicmedia.com/site/info/livery/
So, I couldn’t find those arms online and I don’t have a scanner so, here’s the list of charges that are food or drink related:
* A teapot - on the arms of von Dreher (pg. 137)
* A lamb paschal - on the arms of the guild of of butchers of the city of Basel, Switzerland (pg. 182)
* Loaves of bread - the guild of bakers of Antwerp, Germany (pg. 183)
* A pretzel - on the arms of the guild of Augsburg, Germany (pg. 184)
Kimon,
I just got a chance to look at that first link. Aside from being very helpful, that’s also very interesting. I especially like finding the Kilderkin charge on the brewers arms…that sounds so much more interesting than Tun.
Now as to your most recent post, there semms something a bit blasphemous about putting a Paschal Lamb on the arms of butchers. 
Thank you very much.
Dale Challener Roe;59208 wrote:
Now as to your most recent post, there semms something a bit blasphemous about putting a Paschal Lamb on the arms of butchers.
That’s exactly why I posted it, I thought it was hilarious! :D
I guess it depends upon what you mean by food and drink. Certainly there are lots of arms with fruit on them and garbs of wheat. And animals. But I presume you mean prepared food—a ham rather than a pig, bread rather than grain, wine rather than grapes, etc.?
Not necessarily. I guess what I’m looking for are things that have been associated with food directly or indirectly. Any connection, no matter how tenuous, is OK by me.
Somewhere, I read that an animal (or beast, or creature, or whatever) has some associations with fine food. I know garbs are sometimes used to symbolize a baker. Any of that is fine. I’m really more asking the question as someone whose brainstorming clouds had run dry.
May not be what you have in mind, but there are a number of German(ic) arms with ovens as the main charge—generally a domed shape with doors or an opening, maybe showing the fire within.
Another interesting example is the crested helm of the Master Baker (or some such title) to the Holy Roman Emperor—thye helmet has two upright cylinders, one on each side of the helmet. One is perforated, representing a cheese grater, and the other is plain, representing a pasta roller. (Hey, I couldn’t make this stuff up if I tried!)
Dale Challener Roe;59228 wrote:
Not necessarily. I guess what I’m looking for are things that have been associated with food directly or indirectly. Any connection, no matter how tenuous, is OK by me.
From a 13th century bestiary (MS Bodley 764, trans Barber, R. London 1992), the dove may be suitable for a gourmand
Quote:
the dove chooses its grain, pecking out the best
James
To everyone who had replied,
Thank you for the, if you’ll excuse the expression, food for thought.
I picked up von Volborth’s book that Kimon mentioned and did some more looking online and came up with some other possibilities…
Ladles, escallops and scales (can’t believe I didn’t think of those last two on my own).
Krautwiller, Germany
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Cabbage!
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Ezkurra, Spain
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Here is an image of a consumable heraldic badge, the leek (Allium ampeloprasum variant porrum), representing Wales that appeared on the reverse of the 1985 British One Pound coin.
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the bread and cheese is a little corny. sure, anything can be a charge. i know riffles ahve given way to more modern weapons. but still, i would hate to see big macs and whoppers be included at some point.
though in 500 years, those may seem archaically old fashioned enough to 
