Hmm. I wasn’t thinking cockade (which is amusing because I was just talking in passing about the Union cockade in another post).
I have to say that as a shade of Or, that field goes too far afield. 
It really does look far more Tenne/Copper than Or, whether those tinctures "officially" appear in Hispanic heraldry or not. With that bright cockade, I’d want to see a more "plain yellow" Or. I also see the blazon of the ribbon isn’t specified, but they are using Bleu Celeste, rather than Azure. Give me a "normal" Or and Azure, I think, and while I wouldn’t call it the best looking arms I’d ever seen, I wouldn’t recoil in horror, either.
Agree the Army’s Armsis not perhaps the best piece of Heraldry I have seen. It passes when one know the story behind.
David E. Cohen;60832 wrote:
Hmm. I wasn’t thinking cockade (which is amusing because I was just talking in passing about the Union cockade in another post).
I have to say that as a shade of Or, that field goes too far afield.
One of the realities of life is that gold comes in many shades, and I have seen 22 kt. gold in a shade that is VERY near to copper, and we have all heard of "white gold" in addition to "yellow".
So, the shade used in their shield probably represents what THEY recognise as "gold". Or, at least what they recognised as gold in the early 1800’s.
We must not allow our prejudices to "color" our appreciation of the armory of other nations. This is NOT the same kind of issue as injecting Spanish rules into a Scottish-style shield for an American of German heritage in Washington State.
I think this is probably just a case of bad choice of RGB pixels in the preparation of a digital emblazonment. See the image of the army flag, which is a banner of the arms, on a different page of the same website:
Sorry, Doug, but to me this isn’t close. They could blazon the bendlet on the cockade Vert, but it would still be Gules.
Thank you, Joseph, for providing the comparison. The charges do look nicer on a field of a more "standard" Or.
David E. Cohen;60852 wrote:
Sorry, Doug, but to me this isn’t close. They could blazon the bendlet on the cockade Vert, but it would still be Gules.
No, if they (the Army of Urusguay) blazoned it as Vert, it would have been some shade of green.
Trick question?
David E. Cohen;60852 wrote:
Thank you, Joseph, for providing the comparison. The charges do look nicer on a field of a more "standard" Or.
Agreed!
Doug Welsh;60856 wrote:
No, if they (the Army of Urusguay) blazoned it as Vert, it would have been some shade of green.
Trick question?
Not a trick question at all. You make my point. If they blazoned it as Or, it should have been some shade of yellow/gold, ranging someplace from lemon yellow to antique gold. Not the orange/copper color in the emblazon. Admittedly, the field is lighter on my home computer than on the one in my office, but that color still isn’t within the range of what I’d be willing to call Or.
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1387/escudocomplc9.jpg
Battalion of Combat Engineers No. 4. The bend sinsiter shows the national colours of Uruguay. The Sun denotes the qualities of the Engineers and in the lower part of the shield a rather unheraldic representation of the Laguna del Sauce symbolising the area whre the Battalion is based.
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Battalion of Construction Engineers No. 5.
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Battalion of Combat Engineers No. 6.
http://www.ejercito.mil.uy/cge/dptoeehh/imagenes/Escudos/esc183.gif
The Historical Studies Department of the General Staff.
http://www.ejercito.mil.uy/cge/dptoeehh/imagenes/Escudos/EscCerro.gif
The Fort "General Artigas" Military Museum.
http://www.ejercito.mil.uy/cge/dptoeehh/imagenes/Escudos/EscSantaTeresa2.gif
Military Museum Fort "Sta. Teresa".
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Military Museum Fort "San Miguel", arms showing the namesake the Archangel St. Michael.
Sorry for the small pictures.
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Arms of the Material and Armaments Service.
Hi Marcus - What is the charge in base?
Well Kathy, I think it is a form of Scales.
http://www.ejercito.mil.uy/armas/ingenieros/bning1/images/paste10.jpg
Arms of the Combat Engineer Battalion no 1. The Medal id the Medal of Aeronautical Merit awarded for the Battalion’s support for the Air Force.
