Assumption document

 
Stephen R. Hickman
 
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18 July 2008 08:07
 

Jay Bohn;60797 wrote:

Actually, the preamble to the U.N. Charter does not contain the word "whereas."


OMW!  You’re right, Jay!  I’m so embarrassed.  Where did I ever get the idea that the word "whereas" was peppered in the UN Preamble?  Nevertheless, it doesn’t change my opinion that the word "whereas" doesn’t need to be peppered in official documents.

 
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18 July 2008 08:27
 

Dohrman Byers;60817 wrote:

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To all to whom these Presents shall come

I [full name of armiger] send Greeting!

Whereas the Laws of Arms

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What Laws of Arms?

 
Jeremy Keith Hammond
 
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18 July 2008 08:29
 

Martin Goldstraw;60904 wrote:

What Laws of Arms?


Perhaps: customs and traditions of

 
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18 July 2008 11:12
 

When I create a new design, I also include a document simmilar to the following one:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e221/pblanton/HenryLP.jpg

 

I hope you don’t mind me using this one, WB, but it was the only one I could find online.

 

Take care,

 
 
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18 July 2008 11:52
 

Martin Goldstraw;60904 wrote:

What Laws of Arms?


"Laws of Arms" like "Laws of Football" and "Laws of Cricket"—the rules by which the game of heraldry is played.

 

This, of course invites unfavorable comparisons with the relative power of heraldic authorities on the one hand and FIFA and the MCC on the other within their respective realms.  One might also point to the respect for the spirit of the game, beyond obedience to the laws, expected of cricketers, and ask whether that, rather than haggling about what the rules are or should be, might be a better model for heraldists.

 
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18 July 2008 12:00
 

Martin Goldstraw;60904 wrote:

What Laws of Arms?


Maybe "armorial custom in these United States of America" would be more apt factually, while preserving the ceremonious tone.

 
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18 July 2008 12:08
Joseph McMillan
 
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18 July 2008 12:31
 

That closing line in the ACH certificate about the affixing of the seal always makes me think I’ve unsuspectingly walked into a wedding:  "... in the sight of God, and in the face of this company…"

 
Michael Swanson
 
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18 July 2008 12:35
 

Joseph McMillan;60920 wrote:

That closing line in the ACH certificate about the affixing of the seal always makes me think I’ve unsuspectingly walked into a wedding:  "... in the sight of God, and in the face of this company…"


... if the ACH director and ACH board make a mistake in blazoning or don’t catch usurpation, then one can always blame the almighty witness….

 
George Lucki
 
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18 July 2008 13:05
 

For comparison here is the text of an IAAH certificate (arms designed by IAAH and assumed by the armiger). http://www.herbarz.net/Lucki/mccarthy armorial FINAL.pdf

 
Michael F. McCartney
 
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22 July 2008 20:23
 

George—other than Mike Swanson’s USHR, yours is the least "Shakespearian" so far…and the artwork is IMO very nice!

 
Jay Bohn
 
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18 August 2008 20:50
 

I finished up the document last week. <a class=“bbcode_url”>Here</a> is the final product. I’m sure it’s no better than the first draft for those who prefer less "legalistic" language, but its primary use will be as a wall decoration.

 
Michael Y. Medvedev
 
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19 August 2008 01:05
 

Dear Jay,

nice document!

 
Michael Y. Medvedev
 
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19 August 2008 01:18
 

BTW, here are some Russian samples as done by the Guild of heraldic artists. The Guild it is not mentioned however in the document, the armiger being the sole authority for the creation of the arms.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/crusilly/SKdyfcumXSI/AAAAAAAAALM/wC3SUvoSCnw/s400/Skvortsov_a[1] lessa.JPG http://lh4.ggpht.com/crusilly/SKdygehTN1I/AAAAAAAAALU/IxXHiRUqBBk/s400/logvact lessa.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/crusilly/SKdyhjzLbkI/AAAAAAAAALc/CveJ_hIyWRk/s400/kosmact lessa [lessa].JPG

 
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19 August 2008 03:28
 

they capitalize we, how presumptuous