The arms of the Most Rev. Daniel Thomas, ordained today as Titular Bishop of Bardstown, (KY) and Auxiliary Bishop of Philadelphia:
I thought the see of Bardstown had been transferred to Louisville, which (again, I thought) wouldn’t have made it available for use as a titular see for auxiliary bishops. Obviously I have this wrong?
Bardstown used to be the seat of the see which was transferred to Louisville. Any title that was used for a see which is no longer used can be assigned to a bishop as his titular see.
CoA of the Bishop of Hamilton in Bermuda Robert J. Kurtz born in Chicago 1939 he was ordained Bishop of Hamilton in Bermuda 1995.
CoA of Peter Joseph Hundt, auxiliary bishop in the archdiocese of Toronto. The keys are symbol of St. Peter the patron saint of the Bishop, the hunting horn alludes to the germanic heritage of the Bishop and his last name. The paly vert and argent represent the furrows of a plowed field, denoting the agricultural heritage. Green and silver are also seen as family colours of the Hundt family.
Arms of the Most Rev. Michael Burbidge, newly installed bishop of Raleigh, NC. The diocesan arms are based on those of Sir Walter Raleigh with the fusils rearranged in the form of a cross.
Marcus K wrote:
...the hunting horn alludes to the germanic heritage of the Bishop and his last name….
There seems to be a misunderstanding here. "Hundt" more closely translates to the German "hund" meaning dog. The hunter’s horn would be more appropriate to the German name Jaeger (anglicized to Yager).
Aha (praise Google)—
Hundt German: metonymic occupational name for a keeper of dogs for hunting or other purposes, or derogatory nickname, from Middle High German hund â€˜dogâ€™.
Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-508137-4
I wonder if a hundtmeister would bear the hunter’s horn? Found this at http://www.jaeger-boeblingen.de/jagdhorn_eingang.htm (nice hunt-horn overture)
Das Jagdhorn hat eine lange Tradition unter den JÃ¤gern. Schon vor 1000 Jahren bestimmte das Jagdhorn das jagdliche Geschehen. Mit den Signalen verstÃ¤ndigen sich die JÃ¤ger Ã¼ber weite Strecken hinweg miteinander. Mit dem Klang der HÃ¶rner wird seit altersher schon der JÃ¤ger zur Jagd gerufen, das Sammeln der JÃ¤ger, aber auch die Hundemeute wurde mit Hornsignalen angefeuert.
My poor attemtp at translation:
The hunting horn has a long tradition amongst hunters. For over a thousand years the hunting horn represented jagdliche [hunter-ish] happenings. Hunters were able to keep themselves informed with one another over far distances. Since the hunters were already called to the hunt by the sound of the horns, which was used to assemble the hunters, as well as the hundemeute [dog pack?] with festive bugle calls. [The nearist meaning of hundemeute I can find on Google is that it relates to "hunting with hounds"]
So .... I suppose the horn in the arms could somewhat allude to the surname Hundt, but I think the hound-master would be somewhat lower on the hierarchy and not comparable to the Jadgmeister—Master of the Hunt.
Can any of our European friends confirm that the hound master in modern German hunts is also a bugler?
[sorry if this is not a good translation]
Hey Fr. Guy, where do you find these arms? Do you just Google search for them, or, is there some other place where this sort of thing is easily available? When I search there doesn’t seem to be much out there… sigh.
All nice good Father. But I think we are definitely seeing a trend with the "M" now. I guess how can we not with the popularity of John Paul II The Great? I loved that pope, so I don’t blame others for wanting to imitate him. Still I’d rather see another symbol instead of the "M", which I thought the crescent would be, but I obviously don’t know enough about the arms and the symbolism of the charged to say for sure.
Again Fr. Guy where do you find these? They are great!
The "M" in bishop Cisneros’ arms actually has nothing to do with the arms of John Paul II. Until now Bp. Cisneros was the rector of a seminarian residence in Brooklyn. The "M" conjoined with the crscent is taken from the seal of that seminarian residence which is dedicated to the Immaculate Conception of Mary.
Good to know father. Another lesson in what happens when we "assume" something. LOL.
I do like all three. But, any idea why the arms of Bishop Guy Sansaricq has the base wavy of azure and argent? I was just thinking it might stand out better if it were argent and azure, so the argent sets the waves off from the azure and gules field. So, was there a reason on that like the â€œMâ€ of Bishop Cisneros?
Again please keep these coming Fr. Guy. I love them.
Below are the arms of three new auxiliary bishops of Brooklyn all of whom will be ordained on August 22, 2006.
Here is an example of a very fine use of heraldry. This is from the diocese of Charlotte, NC. The current bishop is carrying the monstrance and behind him in the procession are banners with his arms, the arms of one of his predecessors who went on to become archbishop of Atlanta, and his immediate predecessor. Very nice use of heraldry and a great way to get it out to people that heraldry is used extensively in the Church. This is secondary but I also think the banners happen to be rather well made.
Did you design any of the coats of arms on the banners?
They all are very nice.
[hmmmmm….. a lot of "GUYs" in this thread:
...............where’re Guy Sainty and Guye Pennington when you need them! ]
Yes, good Father, I second Guy’s question…did you design any of those?
Also I agree that this is a great way to see heraldry alive and kicking… and… I might say with a little Catholic pride… I am absolutely thrilled that it is so in the Catholic Church!