USN Submarine Heraldry

 
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19 May 2010 19:48
 

As Joseph McMillan pointed out Heraldry among the USN Submarines are hard to find but the are some examples, like that of the USS Connecticut I shown in the USS San Diego tread. And here are some more of this rare breed:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8476/ssn719patch.jpg

USS Providence (SSN 719) of the Los Angeles Class Attack Submarine. Picture from http://www.combatindex.com/hardware/detail/sea/ssn719_data.html Note how, rather clewer I think, the anchor and the black Roundel alludes to a Los Angeles Class Submarine seen straight ahead.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/760insig.png

USS Annapolis (SSN 760) also of the Los Angeles Class. The Picture (from Wikipedia) is not that clear but the main motive appears to be a Naval Officers’ Sword between two Dolphins. The Sword most probably alludes to the US Naval Academy located in Annapolis. MD and the Dolphin is a wellknown symbol for Submariners. The Crest seems to include the Dome of the Maryland State House, the Dome of the Chapel of the US Naval Academy issuant from a Naval Crown. The Motto is "Born Free, Hope to Die Free".

 

http://www.usscolumbus.org/USS_Columbus/ships_crew_pictures/CA-74_greene_paul/ssn762_pamphlet/ssn762_shipspatch.jpg

USS Columbus (SSN 762) another Los Angeles Class Submarine. The Castle of Castille and Lion of Leon was part of the Arms of Cristopher Columbus. Picture from http://www.usscolumbus.org/

 
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19 May 2010 20:30
 

Great finds, Marcus.  I would add that the red triangle and black roundel of the Providence might also allude to the U.S. Navy’s battle efficiency pennant:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeohzt4/Seaflags/awards/usbep.gif

 
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20 May 2010 09:53
 

Thanks Jospeh, and the Battle efficency pennant might indeed be included in the USS Providence design.

 
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21 May 2010 09:18
 

Some Strategic Ballistic Missile Submarines of the Ohio-class also have arms.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/738insig.png

USS Maryland [SSBN 738]. The Arms are based on the Maryland Arms. The Motto is "Timete Deum Solum et Ignominiam" = "Fear Only God and Dishonor". Perhaps the Dolphins could have been moved into the Chief instead of the Submarine.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/740insig.png

USS Rhode Island (SSBN 740). The Arms are based on the State Flag and Seal. the Motto translates as "In hope of everlasting Peace".

 
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01 August 2011 04:30
 

From the TIOH site the Arms of USS Honolulu [SSN 718]:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1061/imageproxy.jpg

 

Blason and symbolism: http://www.tioh.hqda.pentagon.mil/Heraldry/Navy/NavalShip.aspx?u=7944

 
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15 April 2013 23:58
 

My cousin’s old boat - he commanded her when she was in Guam.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/705insig.png

 

Too busy for my taste, and I feel myself channelling Mike. I’ve seen worse… grin

 

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16 April 2013 07:37
 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/738insig.png

USS Maryland [SSBN 738]. The Arms are based on the Maryland Arms. The Motto is "Timete Deum Solum et Ignominiam" = "Fear Only God and Dishonor". Perhaps the Dolphins could have been moved into the Chief instead of the Submarine.

 

I think that’s a pun representing the senior enlisted person: a "Chief of the Boat."

 
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19 April 2013 14:52
 

Joseph Staub;98494 wrote:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/738insig.png

USS Maryland [SSBN 738]. The Arms are based on the Maryland Arms. The Motto is "Timete Deum Solum et Ignominiam" = "Fear Only God and Dishonor". Perhaps the Dolphins could have been moved into the Chief instead of the Submarine.

 

I think that’s a pun representing the senior enlisted person: a "Chief of the Boat."


I’am not sure about that Joseph, I rather think it represent the Submarine itself. Thus the Shield says Submarine named Maryland.

 
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19 April 2013 21:29
 

I think so, too, Marcus.  I was making a small (very small) joke myself.

 
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20 April 2013 07:27
 

Joseph Staub;98564 wrote:

I think so, too, Marcus.  I was making a small (very small) joke myself.


Ok, forgive me my think brain for not picking up that joke.

 
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08 December 2014 16:18
 

Marcus K;98560 wrote:

I’am not sure about that Joseph, I rather think it represent the Submarine itself. Thus the Shield says Submarine named Maryland.


I’m inclined to agree with Marcus.

 

The way the dolphins are in a place, at the foot of the trident that makes them look like the Enlisted Submarine Warfare Specialist pin, with the trident taking the place of the boat (read: WWII submarine).

 

As far as playing to the COB pun, it would strike me as odd to have the boat’s arms represent any one person except that of the namesake (or the state in this case).

 
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09 December 2014 14:28
 

It was a joke, fellas. It happens from time to time.

 
 
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05 December 2015 06:52
 

Noted Kenneth. Here the Armorial Bearings of USS Triton SSRN-586.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Triton_crest.jpg/426px-Triton_crest.jpg