American Mural Crowns

 
Chuck Glass
 
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26 August 2010 18:38
 

Does anyone know of any examples of American cities with arms that use a mural crown?  It appears each country has their own system of mural crowns, and even England and Scotland have mural crowns uniquely their own.  On further thought, do the Canadians use mural crowns?

 
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26 August 2010 23:18
 

Pittsburgh uses what I suspect might originally have been intended to be a mural crown but has morphed into a castle.

 
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27 August 2010 10:59
 

Looks like the City of St. Augustine and it’s county, St. Johns, both have mural crowns in their arms/seals.

http://www.livius.org/a/2/div/saint_augustine.jpg        http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/St_Johns_County_Fl_Seal.png

St. Augustine Registry  St. Johns Registry

 

For Canada, I found Quebec Cityhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/21/Armoiries_de_la_ville_de_Québec.svg/260px-Armoiries_de_la_ville_de_Québec.svg.png and Barriehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Barrie,_Ontario_Coat_of_Arms.jpg.

 
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27 August 2010 11:16
 

Some Canadian cities certainly use them. Some examples from the Public Register:

Sudbury, Ontario

 

http://archive.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/ProjectPics/iv336_20010034_arms_sudbury.jpg

 

 

Hamilton, Ontario

 

http://archive.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/ProjectPics/iv294_20000029_arms_hamilto.jpg

 

 

Niagara Falls, Ontario

 

http://archive.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/ProjectPics/v020_20040033_arms_niagara.jpg

 

And at least one individual, a Mr. George Politis:

 

http://archive.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/ProjectPics/iv363_20020018_arms_politis.jpg

 
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27 August 2010 11:24
 

Similar to the Pittsburgh example, the Austin, Texas, coat of arms is surmounted by the Texas Capitol. I’ve wondered if this was the designer’s "take" on a mural crown.

Personally, I don’t generally favor the use of a mural crown by a local government in the U.S. because I really don’t think they fit with American heraldry, just as I disfavor the crest coronet. But c’est la vie.

 
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27 August 2010 12:36
 

Antram;78830 wrote:

Looks like the City of St. Augustine and it’s county, St. Johns, both have mural crowns in their arms/seals.


However, you have to remember that both of those coats came from Spain, and presumably so did the mural coronets.

 

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27 August 2010 13:02
 

Antram;78830 wrote:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/St_Johns_County_Fl_Seal.png

Is anyone else reminded of the trash compactor scene from Star Wars? Those poor lions.

 
 
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27 August 2010 15:23
 

The shield of Niagra Falls ONT is perfect!—you can almost see the water flowing over the falls and hear it crashing into the river below.

 
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27 August 2010 21:41
 

Michael F. McCartney;78837 wrote:

The shield of Niagra Falls ONT is perfect!—you can almost see the water flowing over the falls and hear it crashing into the river below.


It is nice, nicer than that of the Regional Municipality of Niagara, the county-like jurisdiction that includes Niagara Falls:

 

http://archive.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/ProjectPics/iii052_19950041_arms_mniaga.jpg

 

But again, a mural crown is used.

 
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28 August 2010 02:20
 

davidappleton;78834 wrote:

However, you have to remember that both of those coats came from Spain, and presumably so did the mural coronets.


Certainly.  Even the registry for St. Augustine lists that "GRANT - Authorized by King Philip V, of Spain, on November 26, 1715."  So much of the United States belonged to someone else for ages before the colonies declared independence and then went on to the idea of manifest destiny.  Even our family was here before it was the USA.


Kenneth Mansfield;78835 wrote:

Is anyone else reminded of the trash compactor scene from Star Wars? Those poor lions.


Bwahahahaha!  Not until now.  :wookie:

 
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27 September 2010 08:10
 

Kenneth Mansfield;78835 wrote:

Is anyone else reminded of the trash compactor scene from Star Wars? Those poor lions.

.......................................................................................:animlol:

...Actually it is the way the heraldic lions are sometimes compacted which I simply adore as one of the most charming peculiarities of armorial imagery.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_sPiVp5N3GVk/S2cBFeIHYBI/AAAAAAAAAzU/2zx772cOy64/s912/1].jpg

 
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