Charges in a border

 
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07 March 2011 14:09
 

How are charges in a border usually depicted when no special instruction is given. I mean: do they all run in one direction of travel such that on one side they point upward and on the other they point downward? (Image 1) Do they all point upward? (Image 2) Do they mirror each other (Image 3)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/Resine/Heraldry/border.png

 
Iain Boyd
 
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07 March 2011 16:00
 

Dear Daniel,

Image 2 is the default, although, I have seem the charges in the curve of the base of the shield follow the curve (as in Image 3).

 

I quite like Image 3, but, the orientation of the charges would require specific blazoning and would become rather pedantic.

 

Image 1 is interesting - but, I do not like it.

 

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Iain Boyd

 
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07 March 2011 16:22
 

I basically agree with Iain, although I suspect that national heraldic traditions play a role.  I would say either Daniel’s picture 2 or the way the castles are arranged on the Portuguese national arms would be correct.

http://www.fotw.net/images/p/pt).gif

 
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07 March 2011 16:55
 

I found these two images on Wiki so I can’t vouch for the accuracy…

The arms of Richard of Conisburgh, 3rd Earl of Cambridge, with a bordure argent semy of lions gules

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Richard_of_Conisburgh_Arms.svg/545px-Richard_of_Conisburgh_Arms.svg.png

 

Arms of Jesus College, Cambridge

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3d/Jesus_College_(Cambridge)_shield.svg/301px-Jesus_College_(Cambridge)_shield.svg.png

 

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After looking at the Jesus College coat of arms page, it seems the arms actually have the semy crowns done differently in different time periods… http://www.jesus.cam.ac.uk/college/arms.html

 
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08 March 2011 04:27
 

I think that 2 and the bottom of 3 would be the default images and I feel it would depend on the charge and artistic licence etc, although some like Portugal might require a specific style, It would be interesting to know if the Portugal arms have a specific blazon for this.

 
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10 March 2011 00:00
 

I would agree—upright except for the lower curves which could also be upright of follow the curve, at the artist’s discretion (but see below).  Either way, if drawn as a banner, the charges would all be upright.

One exception to the artistic license approach, at least IMO, would be where the orientation of the charge also defines what charge it is.  An example would be the avatar of my own arms, as most ably drawn by Brother Guy—in which the saltires are all oriented more or less the same way—if the ones on the lower curve were to rigidly track the border, a couple of them could morph into crosses rather than saltires.  Guy bent them a little for artistic effect, but not too much—moderation in all things, the mark of a true gentleman!

 

I can’t offhand think of other examples where this would matter, but there may well be some.  Most charges maintain their identity even if tipped halfway over.