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24 December 2012 12:56
 

http://imageshack.us/a/img713/9638/crestdesigns.jpg

Artwork is just a quick copy and paste job just so that I could visualize wing positions.

 

I’m still debating between a full bat or just wings

 

original Blazon: On a helm with a wreath Argent and Azure (of the colors)

a Bat rising wings displayed (elevated) Sable

 

Just seeking some input and opinions

 
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24 December 2012 14:31
 

Personally, I like the bat (especially #4) rather than just the wings. Bat wings on a head look like evil rabbit ears to me.

 
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24 December 2012 14:48
 

I agree - go for the whole bat.

And #4 is awesome!!

 
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24 December 2012 15:35
 

Yeah, the whole bat is much better.

 
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24 December 2012 15:43
 

I would prefer #5.  The wings alone.  Very Continental look.  But it’s just an opinion.  Worth what you paid me for it.

 
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24 December 2012 18:21
 

Quite as its kept #4 is my favorite (even rotated facing forward) followed by #5 (as a full bat with wings in that position)

now would you still blazon it as displayed, displayed and elevated, or elevated?

 
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24 December 2012 18:27
 

Doug Welsh;97020 wrote:

I would prefer #5.  The wings alone.  Very Continental look.  But it’s just an opinion.  Worth what you paid me for it.


HAHAAHAHA funny thank you for input

 
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24 December 2012 19:05
 

I dare you to say that to The Batman smile


arriano;97016 wrote:

Personally, I like the bat (especially #4) rather than just the wings. Bat wings on a head look like evil rabbit ears to me.

 

 
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24 December 2012 19:07
 

I think #3 looks best.

 
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24 December 2012 19:24
 

cachambers007;97024 wrote:

i dare you to say that to the batman smile


hahahaha

 
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25 December 2012 01:39
 

Except for the wreath, #2-3-4 are the same crest (FWIW my favorite) viewed from somewhat different angles depending on how the helm is turned.  While there are some minor differences in style, this is merely the exercise of artistic license, rather like different artists (or political cartoonists) each depicting their own version of the same person’s head.  Your artwork is pretty good, but other artist’s bats, so long as they are generally in the same position & color(s), would be heraldically equally "correct" renditions of the same blazon.

Remember that while the designs on a shield or heraldic banner have always been necessarily two dimensional, crests were, in the hey day of medieval heraldry and as now generally accepted, three-dimensional objects.  This is in spite of some unfortunate practices (or malpractices) in "paper heraldry" after heraldic arms ceased being used in combat or tournaments, such as e.g. lions passant guardant on a helm affrontee.

 
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25 December 2012 03:13
 

Doug Welsh;97020 wrote:

I would prefer #5.  The wings alone.  Very Continental look.  But it’s just an opinion.  Worth what you paid me for it.


I agree.  Either #1 or #5 to me.

 
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25 December 2012 05:23
 

take the whole bat, other people already took the bat (dragon) wings as a crest. I will not name names wink

 
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26 December 2012 16:37
 

I like 4 followed by 5

 
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26 December 2012 16:52
 

Michael F. McCartney;97028 wrote:

Except for the wreath, #2-3-4 are the same crest (FWIW my favorite) viewed from somewhat different angles depending on how the helm is turned.  While there are some minor differences in style, this is merely the exercise of artistic license, rather like different artists (or political cartoonists) each depicting their own version of the same person’s head.  Your artwork is pretty good, but other artist’s bats, so long as they are generally in the same position & color(s), would be heraldically equally "correct" renditions of the same blazon.

Remember that while the designs on a shield or heraldic banner have always been necessarily two dimensional, crests were, in the hey day of medieval heraldry and as now generally accepted, three-dimensional objects.  This is in spite of some unfortunate practices (or malpractices) in "paper heraldry" after heraldic arms ceased being used in combat or tournaments, such as e.g. lions passant guardant on a helm affrontee.


That’s what I had hoped. So you can "turn" the crest any where within 90 degrees and still be "correct"

 
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26 December 2012 16:54
 

emrys;97032 wrote:

take the whole bat, other people already took the bat (dragon) wings as a crest. I will not name names wink


yes it looks great on yours!!!