Just want to double check here before I update my listing with the Armorial:
posting a image of the standard here as opposed to the arms to save space and time.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/216654_10151573335498255_1119878835_n.jpg
Arms: Argent, a crow sable. On a chief gules, three acorns or.
Crest: Issuant from a wreath Argent and sable, a Crow sable holding in its beak a slip of oak fructed proper
Badge: A tau cross gules surmounted by a cadeceus proper.
Motto: Pax et Bonum
Translation: Peace and all Good
Any thoughts, comments or concerns before I email this off to the Director of IT?
and thanks to Harold Cannon, for his assistance in designing the Standard, Banner and Badge.
Arms: Argent a crow close Sable on a chief Gules three acorns Or.
Crest: A crow close Sable holding in it’s beak an acorn slipped and leaved proper.
As to the badge, is there any such thing as a caduceus proper? Would it be up to the artist to decide the colors? The breed of serpent? That doesn’t seem like good heraldry to me.
Are you sure you want to go with the caduceus? It seems so trite and overused. Additionally, here in the US it is always confused with the Rod of Asclepius, so you have doctors, nurses, EMTs, and others in the healthcare field displaying a symbol of commerce…
Kenneth Mansfield;98210 wrote:
Arms: Argent a crow close Sable on a chief Gules three acorns Or.
Crest: A crow close Sable holding in it’s beak an acorn slipped and leaved proper.
As to the badge, is there any such thing as a caduceus proper? Would it be up to the artist to decide the colors? The breed of serpent? That doesn’t seem like good heraldry to me.
How would you blazon it then
David Pope;98211 wrote:
Are you sure you want to go with the caduceus? It seems so trite and overused. Additionally, here in the US it is always confused with the Rod of Asclepius, so you have doctors, nurses, EMTs, and others in the healthcare field displaying a symbol of commerce…
What would you suggest
What if the serpents where coiled around the tau itself and sable
How about one gold serpent intertwined with the red Tau?
friarbrett;98213 wrote:
What would you suggest
What is the meaning/purpose of the caduceus to you?
Are you a banker? A physician? A nurse? A devotee of Hermes?
The caduceus, the staff carried by Hermes in Greek mythology, is a short staff entwined by two serpents, usually surmounted by wings. By extension of its association with Hermes, the caduceus is a recognized symbol of commerce and negotiation, two realms in which balanced exchange and reciprocity are recognized as ideals.
The rod of Asclepius has only a single snake and no wings, and was carried by the Greek god Asclepius, a deity associated with healing and medicine.
steven harris;98217 wrote:
The caduceus, the staff carried by Hermes in Greek mythology, is a short staff entwined by two serpents, usually surmounted by wings. By extension of its association with Hermes, the caduceus is a recognized symbol of commerce and negotiation, two realms in which balanced exchange and reciprocity are recognized as ideals.
The rod of Asclepius has only a single snake and no wings, and was carried by the Greek god Asclepius, a deity associated with healing and medicine.
Also a snake coiled around the cross bar of a tau is associated with moses and healing.
Ok now on a more relevant note: if we switched it to the rod with a single snake how would one blazon it.
friarbrett;98218 wrote:
Also a snake coiled around the cross bar of a tau is associated with moses and healing.
Ok now on a more relevant note: if we switched it to the rod with a single snake how would one blazon it.
I’m still not sure about your affinity for the Rod of Asclepius (are you a physician?), but how about:
On a Tau cross gules a Rod of Asclepius Or.
David Pope;98222 wrote:
I’m still not sure about your affinity for the Rod of Asclepius (are you a physician?), but how about:
On a Tau cross gules a Rod of Asclepius Or.
Once again i am a Emergency Medical Technician
as for the change I dont object i’d have to throw it on the fridge to be sure…
friarbrett;98227 wrote:
Once again i am a Emergency Medical Technician
as for the change I dont object i’d have to throw it on the fridge to be sure…
friarbrett;98227 wrote:
Once again i am a Emergency Medical Technician
Sorry, I didn’t know that you had provided this information previously, I missed it.
This seems to be a uniformly accepted emblem for EMS services:
What about:
On a tau cross azure Azure a Rod of Asclepius Argent?
This would strongly allude to the EMS emblem without being a direct copy.
David Pope;98229 wrote:
Sorry, I didn’t know that you had provided this information previously, I missed it.
This seems to be a uniformly accepted emblem for EMS services:
What about:
On a tau cross azure Azure a Rod of Asclepius Argent?
This would strongly allude to the EMS emblem without being a direct copy.
This a good idea, i intentionally avoided the star of life as it is a very modern symbol and therefore out of place in heraldry
Not very "tau-like", but at least gives you an idea…
http://www.americanheraldry.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=72&pictureid=1952
Of course, it might be better to simply go with:
Coiled around the upright portion of a tau cross Azure, a snake Argent.
How about a star of six straight points with the staff (or just the snake) on it? Any colors.
Actually, I don’t think there would be a problem using the "star of life" in heraldry. It may be modern, but it’s not something that a medieval herald couldn’t have invented. (The Canadian Heraldic Authority has granted badges to EMS units using this symbol). But I do think that if it is used it should only be by actual EMS organizations, not by individual members. So good call not to put it in your own arms, but I think a reference to it such as the six pointed star I suggested above would be fine.
http://reg.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/ProjectPics/iv377_19990019_arms_toronto.jpg
