David Pope;98957 wrote:
Kenneth,
I really like this one. Thanks for the emblazonment.
And thank you for the suggestion to make the division wavy.
David Pope;98957 wrote:
I wonder what it would look like if the thistle was gules…
Kenneth Mansfield;98965 wrote:
And thank you for the suggestion to make the division wavy.
Very Nice!
This should be a contender…
I plan on taking the designs to the board to see what they say.
Kenneth Mansfield;98965 wrote:
And thank you for the suggestion to make the division wavy.
Out of the suggestions that have been made and presented, I find this one to my favorite. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the empty (negative) space and, IMO, makes the design more dynamic, professional, and visually appealing.
I was not fond of the straight division but David’s suggestion is really growing on me. Here is where I am so far. I still have to figure the crest out but I have plenty of time for that.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5444/8797733854_30b56bd976_o.png
A thought for the crest…
What about using the Yellowhammer/Flicker (Mimus polyglottos) holding, or possibly even nesting in, an arrangement of the thistles and cotton.
Additionally, if using the Tennessee River as a major influence for the concepts, investigating the use of the Tennessee River pearls might be nice. It will also be a nice reference to the Tennesseeian membership of the organization.
Just my thoughts to the mix.
Snyder;98974 wrote:
A thought for the crest…
What about using the Yellowhammer/Flicker (Mimus polyglottos) ...
Not M. polyglottos (Northern mockingbird)
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/images/birds/northern_mockingbird1_small.jpg
... but Colaptes auratus (Northern flicker)
http://www.outdooralabama.com/images/Image/flicker.jpg
Even though the great Alabama novel is To Kill a Mockingbird, the yellowhammer is the state bird.
harold cannon;98972 wrote:
I was not fond of the straight division but David’s suggestion is really growing on me. Here is where I am so far. I still have to figure the crest out but I have plenty of time for that.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5444/8797733854_30b56bd976_o.png
I think it’s an excellent choice for the arms, but would avoid the ugly sallet helm if at all possible, and if you have to use it (i.e., only if you’re planning a grant from Lord Lyon and he insists), I would ask him to have it emblazoned in 3/4 perspective or profile rather than affronty. John Gaylor posted this picture of a sallet crest on the HSS site. I think it far better than what John, in another HSS thread, described as the "inartistic lump" that is the affronty sallet.
http://www.heraldry-scotland.com/HSSforum/download/file.php?id=464
If you’re just assuming arms, I’d recommend simply displaying the crest on a torse above the shield, a perfectly respectable American heraldic tradition, or on a regular gentleman’s helm.
Joseph McMillan;98975 wrote:
Not M. polyglottos (Northern mockingbird)
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/images/birds/northern_mockingbird1_small.jpg
... but Colaptes auratus (Northern flicker)
http://www.outdooralabama.com/images/Image/flicker.jpg
Even though the great Alabama novel is To Kill a Mockingbird, the yellowhammer is the state bird.
You are correct. I was looking at both states and any symbols they may share. In this case I looked at the wrong name.
Joseph McMillan;98976 wrote:
I think it’s an excellent choice for the arms, but would avoid the ugly sallet helm if at all possible, and if you have to use it (i.e., only if you’re planning a grant from Lord Lyon and he insists), I would ask him to have it emblazoned in 3/4 perspective or profile rather than affronty.
And here is an example of profile, which is a considerable improvement over affronty (though the accompanying mantling makes no sense whatsoever!) - the arms of the Clan MacRae Society of North America:
http://www.clan-macrae.org.uk/scotland/clientimages/cmsna-arms.jpg
I have another form of this helmet in mind. I will try it out when I get home.
I like it. The helm reminds me of a Cylon Raider from battlestar galactica. Yes, Im a sci fi nerd.
Two criticisms:
1) If the crest is affronty, the helm should be also, even if it means a less attractive helm. (I do like that version of the sallet, though. Keep it for something else.)
2) The mantling looks too much like a pavilion or robe of estate that’s missing it’s ermine lining.
I think I like the crest, but wonder if the lion ought to be red instead of gold (Scotland v. England).
Here are just a few versions of society arms where the crest does not face the same direction as the helm. All three granted through Lyon I believe.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2836/8798974561_17a79a9e98_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7397/8809553294_31f9077d10_o.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/8798971493_07faa883c4_o.jpg
As far as the mantling, I like how it worked together with the scroll and the arms.
I had thought about a red lion but went with gold for some contrast.
