That’s very interesting and lovely as well!
Patrick Williams wrote:
That’s very interesting and lovely as well!
I agree. Very nice.
Could this be viewed as a compartment?
The ribbon is a piece of folk embroidery common to Belarus, Poland and the Baltic states. This folk embroidery appeared in the hoist of the flag of the Belorussian SSR and in the present day flag. I do not think that an embroidered ribbon is substantial enough to qualify as an heraldic compartment.
I really love polar bears (in real life as well as heraldry) so I really like these arms. The heraldry of the Russian Federation’s sub-units are very interesting.
Polar bears are to me, the "lion" of the North!
Cheers,
David Pritchard wrote:
I do not think that an embroidered ribbon is substantial enough to qualify as an heraldic compartment.
It’s no worse than a "gas-bracket".
Madalch wrote:
It’s no worse than a "gas-bracket".
But the "gas bracket" is a detail done by the artist—you can count on far fewer than the fingers of one hand when something of the like is the official compartment, so it may be that we’re comparing apples and oranges, as it would seem more probable that this is more official than the generic "gas bracket."
Daniel C. Boyer wrote:
But the "gas bracket" is a detail done by the artist—you can count on far fewer than the fingers of one hand when something of the like is the official compartment, so it may be that we’re comparing apples and oranges, as it would seem more probable that this is more official than the generic "gas bracket."
The compartment was also usually up to the artist, until quite recently at least.
To quote Fox-Davies, "The style of the compartment is practically always a matter of artistic taste and design. With a few exceptions it is always entirely disregarded in the blazon of the patent…" (Art of Heraldry, Chapter XXXI, p. 324)
Modern Canadian grants always include the blazon of the compartment; I’m not sure about modern Scottish or English ones. I do know that the College of Arms grant to Stoney Creek, Ontario did not blazon the compartment (despite it being a perfect cant)- this would have been in the 1960s or 1970s.
Madalch wrote:
The compartment was also usually up to the artist, until quite recently at least.
I’m aware of this, but is it correct to say that usually the artist would just have a grassy mount rather than the more elaborate designs of today? (The compartments of clan chiefs are the exception here.)
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Modern Canadian grants always include the blazon of the compartment
And it’s interesting to see the creativity and high degree of elaboration in these.