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22 February 2007 15:12
 

Do you suppoe that THIS has any relation to the Roosevelt arms?  The name looks like "von Rossenberg" or "von Rossenbex"... something like that

 
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22 February 2007 15:33
 

ESmith wrote:

Does anyone know a name of THIS line of division?  It looks a little like nebuly… maybe nebuly-counter nebuly?


An interesting partition line is it not? Could it be counter nebuly invected? This double treatment of a partition opens many opportunities for a designer to create simple but unique arms.

 
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22 February 2007 19:35
 

Daniel C. Boyer wrote:

If part of the axle is attached to a wheel as at http://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/bsb00001755/images/index.html?id=00001755&fip=141.219.44.44&no=10&seite=201 is anyone aware of a usual way to approach the blazon?


It definitely is an unusual charge. This is the first time that I have seen a wheel attached to an axle hub or a broken axle. This is a great charge for the surname Axelrod!

 
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22 February 2007 20:39
 

ESmith wrote:

Do you suppoe that THIS has any relation to the Roosevelt arms? The name looks like "von Rossenberg" or "von Rossenbex"... something like that


Probably only that they’re both canting arms for names based on "rose."  Roosevelt=rose field; Rossenberg=rose mountain.

 
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23 February 2007 12:05
 

David Pritchard wrote:

An interesting partition line is it not? Could it be counter nebuly invected? This double treatment of a partition opens many opportunities for a designer to create simple but unique arms.


That’s a new one on me.  Perhaps they’re meant to be scallop shells?

 

Per bendy escallopy?

 
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23 February 2007 15:20
 

*edited by member*

 
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23 February 2007 19:32
 

On the HSS forum John Gaylor (sp?) proposed a design for one of their members featuring a chief triple-arched flory which is quite nice.  I sustect there are any number of creative possibilityes just waiting to be explored!

 
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24 February 2007 02:32
 

David Pritchard wrote:

An interesting partition line is it not? Could it be counter nebuly invected?


I think that is the correct way to describe it.

I have seen this kind of partition in some German armorials.

 
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26 February 2007 11:23
 

Joseph McMillan wrote:

Probably only that they’re both canting arms for names based on "rose."  Roosevelt=rose field; Rossenberg=rose mountain.


Except that there’s no mountain in evidence…

 
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26 February 2007 11:24
 

Padberg Evenboer wrote:

I think that is the correct way to describe it.

I have seen this kind of partition in some German armorials.


I get the invected but why is it counter nebuly?  This seems to be identical to regular nebuly.

 
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26 February 2007 15:20
 

Daniel C. Boyer wrote:

I get the invected but why is it counter nebuly?  This seems to be identical to regular nebuly.


The blazon for the shield should be: Per bend nebuly invected Azure and Argent. I think that the word ‘counter’ came into the picture because the azure and argent brought ‘vair’ to mind.

 
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26 February 2007 17:05
 

David Pritchard wrote:

The blazon for the shield should be: Per bend nebuly invected Azure and Argent. I think that the word ‘counter’ came into the picture because the azure and argent brought ‘vair’ to mind.


Gotcha.  Thanks.

 
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26 February 2007 17:07
 

This is a stunning crest, though I’d be at a loss to identify what it is.

 
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26 February 2007 17:14
 

How would one blazon the vessel the lion is holding?

 
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26 February 2007 17:19
 

The identity of this charge is also mysterious to me.  Any ideas?