Design idea : Pontiac

 
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22 August 2008 11:54
 

As some of you know, I am working with my family on a design that all will embrace, and if anyone has done this, you will know how hard it is. The shield is almost there.  I would like some ideas for a crest that represents farming in Pontiac, MI.  My mother’s ancestors owned hundreds of acres that became part of Pontiac (where the money went, I have no idea).

 
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22 August 2008 12:21
 

Pontiac is in Oakland County. How about something with an oak tree?


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Named for the numerous oak openings in the county. Bela Hubbard described an oak opening as "a majestic orchard of oaks and hickories varied by small prairies, grassy lawns and clear lakes."


Or…

 

Michigan has a Centennial Farm program to recognize family farms which have been in existence for more than 100 years. The markers have a wolverine on them. That would make a nice crest.

 

http://www.hsmichigan.org/images/main/CentennialMarker.jpg

 
 
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22 August 2008 12:26
 

Michael Swanson;62552 wrote:

(where the money went, I have no idea).


Did you look under the mattress?

 

What kind of crops did your family farm? That might provide an image. Were there any special features on this land, such as a rock or hill or river? Perhaps something of the native flora or fauna for the area?

 

As said above, a wolverine might be good.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75awolverines.phtml

 
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22 August 2008 12:34
 

arriano;62556 wrote:

Did you look under the mattress?

What kind of crops did your family farm? That might provide an image. Were there any special features on this land, such as a rock or hill or river? Perhaps something of the native flora or fauna for the area?

 

As said above, a wolverine might be good.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75awolverines.phtml

 


Wheat, cattle, and sheep and operated a mill.  Oak trees were plentiful.  The township was Waterford.  Their last name was Osmun, though I am drawing a blank on how to cant OSMUN.

 

http://books.google.com/books?id=2hBA4H2fRjMC&pg=PA483&lpg=PA483&dq=osmun+farm+pontiac&source=web&ots=Q3n8_2qMH5&sig=kMTjE8BTMx0Mme-sAGNUKgSk41U&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PPA483,M1

 
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24 August 2008 13:49
 

List of official Michigan things:

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/misymbols.htm

 

Now I understand the wolverine connection. Millstone might be a possibility.

 
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24 August 2008 19:16
 

what are the elements of the escutcheon? for purpose of uniformity.

 
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24 August 2008 19:44
 

xanderliptak;62654 wrote:

what are the elements of the escutcheon? for purpose of uniformity.


Tentatively, Azure a swan naiant Argent a chief indented embowed throughout of five points upwards Or.

 
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24 August 2008 21:12
 

how about a wolverine azure with claws Or chained to an oak stump?

 
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25 August 2008 11:24
 

xanderliptak;62661 wrote:

how about a wolverine azure with claws Or chained to an oak stump?


I hadn’t thought of that.  Thanks.

 
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25 August 2008 12:34
 

I like this idea from Xander. The oak stump for the clearing of the land for the agricultural enterprise—both for the abundance of oak trees and the location in Oakland County—and the wolverine for the greater location of Michigan (plus a great animal for emblazoning).

 
 
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25 August 2008 17:56
 

im thinking to compliment the swan, argent would best be for the stump. the chain Or, and to defend the rule of tinctures, perhaps under the stump a mound vert to attach the chain to.

im on vacation, all i have is paint to work with tongue laugh

 
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27 August 2008 11:15
 

In my insane brainstorm moments, for an Osmun cant, I thought of OZ symbols: yellow bricks, winged monkey, scarecrow. :rolleyes:  For a Pontiac farm allusion, maybe an arrow palewise (or other weapon) cortised (as opposed to cotised?) by two demi-garbs (hmm…where did I hear that?). Other crops, carrots, beets, cucumbers, etc? This will take some time.

 
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27 August 2008 11:31
 

Maybe a wolverine atop a food pyramid on a yellow brick foundation.

 
 
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27 August 2008 22:43
 

By the time we’re done, someone is bound to suggest a Bonneville or a Grand Prix…

Since the name is historically derived from Chief Pontiac, why no visual nod in his direction?

 
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28 August 2008 05:37
 

or he could simply adopt the pontiac logo tongue laugh

 
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01 September 2008 11:17
 

Thought of a cant for Osmun, but I don’t see it as much use for a crest.

"Os" is Latin for "mouth," and "Mund" is German for "mouth." Perhaps something like the Rolling Stones logo?

 

Sorry.