American Military Decorations and Heraldry

 
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11 July 2011 16:07
 

Has anyone ever seen an emblazonment of arms borne by an American that included any sort of military decorations?  I was reading the AHS primer, and came across the section about decorations and became curious about the practice, as I don’t recall ever seeing decorations on American arms…

 
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11 July 2011 16:31
 

Yes.  See, for one, the "grant" to Lyndon Johnson on our presidential arms page.

http://www.americanheraldry.org/pages/uploads/President/lbj-ptg.png

 

And for another the bookplate of John R. Delafield, discussed previously in our thread on the heraldic use of the insignia of the Society of the Cincinnati.

 

http://nltaylor.net/sketchbook/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bookplate5.jpg

 

I’m sure there are others in the ACH’s published rolls of arms, and probably in the Augustan Society’s as well.

 
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11 July 2011 22:26
 

Brad Smith;85898 wrote:

Has anyone ever seen an emblazonment of arms borne by an American that included any sort of military decorations?  I was reading the AHS primer, and came across the section about decorations and became curious about the practice, as I don’t recall ever seeing decorations on American arms…


I have them on mine.

 

David

 
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13 July 2011 15:11
 

David, I really like the emblazonment of your arms in the AHS Armorial!  The addition of your military decorations looks good.

 
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13 July 2011 22:49
 

Brad Smith;85972 wrote:

David, I really like the emblazonment of your arms in the AHS Armorial!  The addition of your military decorations looks good.


Thank you.

 
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01 November 2011 14:43
 

I display my Bronze Star Medal from mine. So does H.E. Richard Dunn, Bailiff Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion in the Sovereign Miliatray Order of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes, and of Malta (SMOM).

 
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01 November 2011 14:49
 

mquigley;89518 wrote:

I display my Bronze Star Medal from mine. So does H.E. Richard Dunn…


H.E.?

 
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01 November 2011 14:57
 

"H.E.?"

I assume that’s in contradistinction to ""S.H.E."—though the periods seem extraneous.

 
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01 November 2011 15:10
 

mquigley;89518 wrote:

I display my Bronze Star Medal from mine. So does H.E. Richard Dunn, Bailiff Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion in the Sovereign Miliatray Order of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes, and of Malta (SMOM).


http://www.americanheraldry.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=962&d=1320172992

 

I don’t know that I would call those part of the achievement as much as illustrations on the same page since they are not pendant from the shield.

 
 
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03 November 2011 14:38
 

Granted, H.E. Richard Dunn, does not actually suspend the Bronze Star Medal (BSM) from behind his arms… but I have a version where I do.

 
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03 November 2011 15:47
 

Thanks for posting the link to your arms with the pendant Bronze Star—really nice work!

 
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03 November 2011 16:39
 

Very attractive arms, too.  I like the idea of interlacing the orle and the saltire.

 
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03 November 2011 20:15
 

Indeed, very attractive, Michael.  Will you post a photo of the patent?

 
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03 November 2011 20:40
 

The interlaced orle & saltire are an example of the possibilities, even after several centuries of heraldry, to create a simple and distinctive combination of ever-so-traditional charges.

Even if drawn by a fair-to-middlin’ artist (i.e. most of us! smile ) the results should be at least minimally successful—one of my personal tests for a good heraldic design, for transparently self-serving reasons.  Then seeing what a real pro can do with it is a valuable and eye-pleasing reminder of our own humility.

 

(The grammar is forced, but not the sentiment.)

 
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04 November 2011 08:42
 

Thank you all for your kind comments on my emblazon of arms. The charge is actually a voided escutcheon fretted by a saltire… I had asked for an orle, but the Kings of Arms said that if the arms were to be emblazoned on a lozenge-shaped shield it would too closely resemble another grant of arms.

I was given credit by the Kings for coming up with something (the fretting of an orle or voided escutcheon) that none of them had ever seen before… it felt good to receive praise by the College of Arms on essentially creating something new in the art and practice of heraldry.

I have asked that Andy Jamieson be permitted to paint and scrive my Letters Patent and he has agreed. I will certainly display what will be, without a doubt, the quintessential version of my arms in this forum.

 
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04 November 2011 15:26
 

mquigley;89571 wrote:

Granted, H.E. Richard Dunn, does not actually suspend the Bronze Star Medal (BSM) from behind his arms… but I have a version where I do.


Very interesting arms!

 

Regarding this emblazonment, however, shouldn’t the cross of the EOHS surmount the mantling, rather than being obscured by it?