Cronista de Armas

 
Michael Y. Medvedev
 
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Michael Y. Medvedev
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04 December 2011 05:18
 

Luis Cid;90234 wrote:

[...] for 500 years [...]

- which, querido Luis, is nothing (or even a disadvantage) for a typical short-sighted progressist-minded official. Or maybe I am just suspectful about bureaucracy wink

 
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22 February 2013 11:45
 

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My understanding is that assumption was historically the norm even in Spain. Certification of arms often went hand-in-hand with certification of nobility and pedigree, which were actually far more important concerns for those Spanairds wishing to confirm their hidalgo status.


PS here are some images of just such a document from 1923.  I hope you find them as interesting as I did.

 

http://bullrichgaonawernicke.com/RI1106/full/DSC00205.jpg

 

http://bullrichgaonawernicke.com/RI1106/full/DSC00202.jpg

 

http://bullrichgaonawernicke.com/RI1106/full/DSC00203.jpg

 

http://bullrichgaonawernicke.com/RI1106/full/DSC00204.jpg

 
ernie_anaya@yahoo.com
 
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27 March 2019 22:28
 

Article about the Cronista de Armas de Castilla y León published in Armiger’s News (Summer 2019).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SR5HK4q99ZYtU3u0wApDibCVw_8v4vNL/view?usp=drivesdk

As we know, the Council of State has no authority for legal decisions, only the Supreme Court has that authority. The Council of State is the “supreme advisory body of the government”, according to article 107 of the Constitution. Issues opinions on matters submitted to the government or its members for consultation, although they will not be binding, unless the law provides otherwise, or the Supreme Court makes a legal decision.

Even so, the opinion of the Council of State also says that “exercising the office of Arms Chronicler of the Junta de Castilla y León is authorized by the Autonomous Decree 105/1991.”

Many changes have occurred since that time; Spain today has 17 autonomous regions, each with its own President and independent judge. The Constitution of Castilla y León was last revised in 2007 with total autonomy including judicial authority.

https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-2007-20635

And the decrees of the President of the Junta de Castilla y León authorized the creation of the post of Arms Chronicler of Castilla y León, and he assigned Don Alfonso as his Arms Chronicler with the same powers as yesterday’s Chroniclers mentioned in the royal decree of 1915 and the decree of 1951. Reference (s): Decree 105/1991, Articles 15, 16, and 17. And Decree 111/1991. Note: the Council of State opinion did not address Articles 15, 16, and 17 which gave the Cronista de Armas de Castilla y León the same powers as the Cronista Rey de Armas of yesterday concerning the certification of nobility and arms.

The royal decree of 1915 says “In addition to the palatine function entrusted to them, they come from very old, issuing certifications in matters of nobility, genealogy and coats of arms, for having recognized them of this faculty ...”

More importantly, the Ministry of Justice abandoned the evidence on Chronicler King of Arms in 1994.If the Ministry wanted to follow that tradition, Don Alfonso qualifies with degrees in law and doctorate in history, required by the decree of 1951, which Don Vicente de Cadenas and Vicent lacked.

https://www.boe.es/datos/pdfs/BOE/1951/123/A02054-02054.pdf

Other European Heraldry societies as the Heraldry Society recognize don Alfonso as Cronista de Armas for Castilla y León. He is also referenced in Stephen Slatter’s publication ‘The Complete Book of Heraldry: An international history of Heraldry and its contemporary use,’ page 205.

The Spanish Royal House recognizes Don Alfonso as Cronista de Armas and has engaged him to certified the arms of newly granted titles of nobility. In the case of El Conde de Latores, SM Don Juan Carlos I co-signed his arms along with Don Alfonso.

http://blogdeheraldica.blogspot.com/2008/09/el-conforme-de-nuestro-rey.html

Below is a link to more information about the Cronista de Armas de Castilla y León.

https://rynigogenio.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/certificaciones-de-armas/

Furthermore, recently they have created the Royal Society of Armigers of Spain for those whose arms have been certified in Spain. The current Chancellor is Dr. D. Otto Federico José von Feigenblatt y Rojas, Barón de Feigenblatt-Milller y Conde de Kobryn.

http://www.docelinajes.org/2016/08/la-real-sociedad-de-armigeros-de-espana/

 
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10 July 2019 17:05
 

Certification of Arms in Spain may not lead to Hidalgia, but it is a requirement for entry into Noble Companies. In Spain along with the titled Nobility there is also a plain nobility or Hidalguía of ancient origin grouped in associations forming a Corporate Nobility, continuing the ancient tradition and values ​​of the Hidalguía.

Admission to these associations requires compliance with certain requirements, especially aimed at certifying their status as hidalgos. To do this they must prove this through a wide variety of Probanzas that vary according to the different Spanish regions.

According to the decision of the Supreme Court of February 16, 1988, today in terms of strict legality, there is a Nobility titled in Spain, which is composed of the Great Spanish and Kingdom Titles, as well as a Certification or Corporate Nobility. The latter is formed by associations such as the Cavalry Maestranzas and other associations such as the Noble Company of Ballesteros Hijosdalgo de San Felipe and Santiago. “

Most enter by inheritance, and few by merit thanks to parents like mine for giving me the resources such as education to achieve it.

http://www.maestranzadecastilla.com/historia.html