Counterchanging and how to blazon it

 
Dale Challener Roe
 
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05 March 2012 14:11
 

A friend of mine has taken a shine to heraldry.  So far he doesn’t want to join up (he thinks it would be a good way to waste a LOT of time :D

The question is, if layering counterchanging can you use a single reference to refer to all elements (#1), or do you have to describe them individually (#2)?

 

#1. Per pale azure and vert, semy of billets, on a chevron two needles all counterchanged.

 

#2. Per pale azure and very, semy of billets counterchanged, on a chevron counterchanged two needles counterchanged.

 
Joseph McMillan
 
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05 March 2012 15:11
 

Dale Challener Roe;92663 wrote:

##2. Per pale azure and very…


A very heraldic style of phrasing, I must say, "pale azure and very" ... so very pale azure it looks almost white! smile

 

Substituting "argent," I think your first option works fine.

 
Dale Challener Roe
 
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05 March 2012 16:41
 

Joseph McMillan;92665 wrote:

A very heraldic style of phrasing, I must say, "pale azure and very" ... so very pale azure it looks almost white! smile

Substituting "argent," I think your first option works fine.


:banghead: OK….aside from the ludicrously careless mistake of mixing up two color names that start with a :facepalm:, and of not proofing well enough to spell "vert" correctly :facepalm::facepalm:....

 

Thank you for your answer.  #1 was what I thought it would be, but I wasn’t sure if a single mention of counterchanging could be applied to several "stacked" elements.

 
Jeremy Keith Hammond
 
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05 March 2012 21:37
 

Could always look up the blazon to my arms, too.

Sincerely,

-Also-a-bad-speller

 
Doug Welsh
 
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07 March 2012 12:46
 

Would it also work with "billety" rather than "semy of billets"?

 
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07 March 2012 14:35
 

Dear Dale,

I think the blazon should also indicate the attitude of the needles upon the chevron:

 

‘Per pale azure and vert billety on a chevron two needles points outwards all counterchanged’

 

In this case as with most one mention of ‘counterchanging’ will suffice.

 

Just a thought.

 

With every good wish

 

John