Yes, yes, I agree with Fr. Dohrman. Instead of changing them for a married coat, simply place them together in a different way. I’ve done quite a few like this, as was noted by David above. My friend, and one of my two mentors, Ton de Witte, has done these too. In fact it is Ton’s vision that had inspired me to be as creative with my own allied/married arms that I’ve done for clients. Ton’s piece posted by Robert above is my second favorite of Ton’s in this line with Ton’s own allied arms being my favorite.
Just some examples to go along with Ton’s, and I hope Ton posts some more of his as well to give you an idea of what can be done in such cases.
The Mike Oettle Family
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1301/oettlemasseyalliedarmsclt3.jpg
The Sweeny (Martini) Family
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2135/sweenymartinialliedarmsnr1.jpg
The Dr. McGoff (Lujan) Family
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2302/damienautumnarmstwofinanf1.jpg
The Martin Meskel (Dugan) Family
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8158/martybridgetalliancearmec2.jpg
The Mike Meskel (Groshart) Family
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8018/unclemikecathyalliedarmyi3.jpg
And a sketch of the allied arms I’m doing for the Crump-Bertram (Ford) Family where I specifically needed to use a very simple, plain cross (it is in the middle of being painted right now, hence the sketch).
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4111/crumpbertramalliedarmss.jpg
And if you’re looking for one that is marshalled to be used as an avatar, like Kathy said, well, I’ve seen many of those which have had borders as well. I don’t really have access to them right now, but I have seen them and they can be done Jeremy. So, I wouldn’t change your arms only for the reason of marshalling them. But, they are your arms and you are free to do what you want.
P.S. Congrats on your upcoming marriage.
Here’s another way as done by a master heraldic artist, Marco Foppoli, whose website is: http://www.marcofoppoli.com/index.php?p=
http://www.marcofoppoli.com/images/lavori/221.jpg
Other masters of this art have excellent examples too, like in Ronny Andersen’s gallery on his website: http://www.arsheraldica.dk/9308/ExlibrisArneSophie001
and
http://www.arsheraldica.dk/9331/ExlibrisPeterCamilla
And so on. When I have more time I’ll see if I can dig up some images for you that have bordered arms that are marshalled arms and you’ll see that even with a border they can look great.
Gotta go…. C’ya.
Denny’s favorite
coooool! 8)
Very nice Ton!! :D
Kathy McClurg;69081 wrote:
I get the sense waht Jeremy is after is his arms marshalled with his wives for use as an avatar and other purposes, not only display in the home. Size to distinguish both arms displayed together may be his concern.
Yup - though all of these examples are marvelous and I wouldn’t hesitate to display them this way - but I am fond of the idea of marshalling them.
Thanks for the help!
So, has there been progress on the design of arms for your presumptive better half? I recall the thread on the IAAH forum last year where there was extensive preliminary discussion.
Have you bounced the prospective marshalled arms off anyone? They might look better than you presently think. Perhaps some affirmation/validation is all that’s needed.
Only a little progress on the In-Law blazon. I’ve been working with Elise’s father - he’s pretty interested in it. What we have so far are just some elements. Initially he said he wanted a maple leaf vert on a dragon (argent?)
So far I haven’t been able to emblazon one we like but I’ve been messing around with dragons, maple leaves (N.American - "Canadian Flag") and the colors green and white in other ways. But unfortunately it’s been put on the back burner (with most of my heraldry projects.) On the upside (I guess) - Elise and I are procrastinators and will likely have plenty of time before the wedding to complete the arms, lol.