Hickman wrote:
I’m glad that—at least apparently—these arms are not already assumed, but now that I see an actual rendering of them, I’m inclined to agree. They do look ecclesiastical…
I would just add that what makes arms ecclesiastical or not really has nothing to do with the charges on the field. It’s the external ornaments that make arms ecclesiastical looking. Choose whichever form of the cross you like. Clerics don’t have a monopoly on "churchy" looking charges. There are zillions of forms of cross that you can use but if a simple Latin cross is what you like best then use it.
gselvester wrote:
Clerics don’t have a monopoly on "churchy" looking charges. There are zillions of forms of cross that you can use but if a simple Latin cross is what you like best then use it.
I certainly hope not :wink:
Hickman wrote:
The passion cross is (big surprise) a symbol of my faith. It, therefore, (IMHO) should be at the "heart" of the shield. But I would like the cross to not be depicted as an ordinary on the inescucheon—just as a simple charge. How would that be blazoned?
I guess I was asking, why not use a cross that is.. for lack of a better term… "Official" looking, that could still depict your faith well without giving the arms that ecclesiastical look. I might put something together tonight when I get home on photoshop to kinda show you what i mean.
Last name is better than some made-up nom de poste (which most of us don’t care for), but having a first name makes it a bit less formal & friendlier.
Welcome!
Here’s the ideas I had with the olive branches and moline crosses and stuff
http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/48a28388ce.png http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/3c19040d23.png http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/3d1feea640.png
Linusboarder wrote:
Here’s the ideas I had with the olive branches and moline crosses and stuff
I think this would look great with the passion cross…
Beautiful work, guys! Linusboarder, that third one really speaks to me. I think that the olive branches, though wonderfully designed, makes it too busy. Besides, I was actually reserving the argent field for future generations. But that third one is really close to what I have in mind. The moline cross is a lot more like the "heraldic" cross on crusaders’ shields. Would you mind if you were to display that for me, please? Thanks in advance!
Beautiful work, guys! Linusboarder, that third one really speaks to me. The olive branches, though wonderfully depicted, makes it seem too busy. Besides, I was actually reserving the argent field for future generations. But that third one is really, really close to what I have in mind. The moline cross is a lot like the "heraldic" cross used on crusaders’ shields. Would you mind displaying that for me, please? Thanks in advance!
Hickman wrote:
The moline cross is a lot more like the "heraldic" cross on crusaders’ shields. Would you mind if you were to display that for me, please? Thanks in advance!
What do you mean? You want to use this?
I was wanting to see what it would look like with a regular, "heraldic" cross on the inescucheon. That should make the design seem less ecclisiastical, while at the same time express my faith. Please?
I guess i don’t know what you mean by "heraldic cross" there are a boatload of them. I would go here
www.heraldicclipart.com and scroll to the cross section and pick out the one you are looking for
I apologize. What I mean is, the "defalt" cross used as an ordinary, as in: Argent, within a bordure azure an inescucheon of the second (charged with) a cross of the first.
It looks to me VERY "ecclesiastical", I agree in general terms that less is more but in this case olive branches or not the whole coat looks ecclesiastical.
What about using the cross in the crest?
Is there any other interest, tradition or achievments you’d like to represent?
I generally agree with the rule "Less is More" but maybe some kind of partition will help to make a more secular design. Just my 2 cents.
Hickman wrote:
I apologize. What I mean is, the "defalt" cross used as an ordinary, as in: Argent, within a bordure azure an inescucheon of the second (charged with) a cross of the first.
I think this would look like a + sign, very similar to a passion cross
And I agree that it still looks very ecclesiastical, in my eye, maybe instead of one cross, maybe 3 might server it better