Nenad,
I was curious about these arms -
http://www.czipm.org/Grafika/Foto/krotrport03.jpg
A lozenge and a crest (as opposed to a coronet of rank) are uncommon - but the most curious for me is that she appears to be married to no one - at least no one who bears arms - wouldn’t it be simply more appropriate for her to continue to use her paternal arms. I understand that this is not uncommon on teh Iberian peninsula. Can you explain Portuguese historical heraldic practice as it applies to such things?
Thanks.
Isn’t this called a "a shield of expectation" which is like a placeholder for the future or absent spouse? Does it not sometime indicate that the husband is on his first tour of military duty and when he returns the shield will join his wife’s?
Or perhaps the Trump arms, with Argent on Argent, are in dexter.
From information posted on the HSS forum I understand that it is a lozenge in expectation or in search of a husband and that it is an "obsolete oddity’. I’ve been referred to "Lines od Succession" where there is an illustration of this from a Portuguese painting.
Does anyone know of any examples from more modern usage?
In the arms of His Royal Highness Infante Afonso de Santa Maria Miguel Gabriel Rafael of Heredia of Braganza, Crown Prince of Portugal, is the crown used as a crest (on a torse), instead of as a Coronet of rank? What is the story or heraldic rule behind that?
Cheers,
Mohamed,
It’s a coronet of rank for a Portuguese Crown Prince.
I am intrigued by the use of blue ribbon. Are there any rules or customs concerning the ribbons atop of arms of vomen? I’ve seen red ribbons before, but the use of a blue ribbon when there’s no azure on the shield is quite puzzling to me.
Airut;54919 wrote:
I am intrigued by the use of blue ribbon. Are there any rules or customs concerning the ribbons atop of arms of vomen? I’ve seen red ribbons before, but the use of a blue ribbon when there’s no azure on the shield is quite puzzling to me.
The ribbons were apparently initially always blue but in later times different tinctures have been used as a sort of counterpart of men’s mantling.
The new arms and badge of Mr Jay Lee Doland
http://www.czipm.org/Grafika/Foto/gal_her-doland03.jpg
http://www.czipm.org/doland.html
/Click upon the images to enlarge/
You guys do handsome work over there in Serbia. Very nice!
I’m always looking forward to your next creation, Nenad. :D Great job!
Take care,
PBlanton;55878 wrote:
I’m always looking forward to your next creation, Nenad. :D Great job!
Take care,
I second that.
Very nice Nenad.
Thank you all!
It did come out rather good I think…
MohamedHossam;54438 wrote:
In the arms of His Royal Highness Infante Afonso de Santa Maria Miguel Gabriel Rafael of Heredia of Braganza, Crown Prince of Portugal, is the crown used as a crest (on a torse), instead of as a Coronet of rank? What is the story or heraldic rule behind that?
The heir, Dom Afonso, uses the coronet of rank with red cap in place of the crest. In the case of the younger Bragança children, they commonly use the dragon crest in combination with a coronet of rank over the arms with or without the helm.