I’ve been recently fiddling with ideas for arms for my adopted father.  Since his last name is Bauer, I peeked at a link in one of Denny’s recent posts.  Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what that is poking out of the top??  Feathers, maybe…?  Just wondering! 

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c/qx/bauer-coat-arms.htm

——GH

Those green and yellow things? Feathers. That appears to be a bucket shop site. Those arms have two tincture violations! Azure chief with a vert field, and an azure charge as well!

Also, I’d be wary of arms that have scrolls that say "The Ancient Arms of".

:D

Cheers,

Yeah, how bout that :D Metals!  Who needs em!!  LOL

——GH

Though it is rare to see, the Chief is unique in being exempt from the tincture rule. As for the wings, that’s another story.

The crest (though not proportional to the shield) consists of a panache of five ostrich feathers vert,or,vert,or,vert. The panache is a rather common type of crest, most common in Portugal, Spain and Italy but also appearing throughout northern and eastern Europe.

Sandy Turnbull;46032 wrote:

Though it is rare to see, the Chief is unique in being exempt from the tincture rule. As for the wings, that’s another story.

As in the AHS’s own arms at the top of the page..

Mohamed, keep in mind that bucket shops are notorious for taking black & white renditions of arms and just coloring them however they like. Whatever Bauer may or may not have held those arms at whatever time in the past possibly would not have had them tinctured as portrayed on the website.

Bonnie, did you show your dad the heraldic thunderbolt with roses in chief? I’d wondered if that might have torqued his scooter.

Dad seems to have fallen off the face of the earth at the moment, but I’ll let you know if his scooter torques. 

——GH

Rietstap shows several blazons for Bauer, including this one:

De sinople, au vol d’azur, au chef du même, ch. de trois étoiles d’or.

My French is pretty rusty, but it appears to be similar.

Hugh Brady;46042 wrote:

As in the AHS’s own arms at the top of the page..

Thanks for pointing that out :p . I admire the AHS arms and have never given thought to it. Goes to show what a good design can do.

Actually, because the American Eagle is tinctured Proper, then I thought there was no color-on-color violation. Am I under a misconception?

hi pat, i think hugh is referring to the chief and field colors with 1 not being a metal…he can correct me if im wrong.

i wonder though if the reason the vert is on azure is bewcause of whay the brothers lynch-robinson said (i know everyone told me to throw the book away, but i couldnt ) where they said that the french included vert along with metals as well as a color because of some reason or another. could not this, if this idea of the brothers lynch-robinson were right, be true and in that case they would not see it as a tincture violation?

i know that the highly regarded ancestral, or so-called "sept arms," of the MacCotter’s of both cos. dublin and cork used this combination; those being: Azure, in pale three evetts Vert.

I was referring to the chief.

Donnchadh;46089 wrote:

i wonder though if the reason the vert is on azure is bewcause of whay the brothers lynch-robinson said (i know everyone told me to throw the book away, but i couldnt ) where they said that the french included vert along with metals as well as a color because of some reason or another. could not this, if this idea of the brothers lynch-robinson were right, be true and in that case they would not see it as a tincture violation?

I really doubt that.  Few combinations would contrast as poorly as green and blue.

ok darren…i agree these are complimentary colors…but the fact remains there are case of its use in heraldry…i just wonder why.

Hugh Brady;46094 wrote:

I was referring to the chief.

Yes, of course you were. Duh. :oops: