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13 December 2012 14:21
 

I am currently working on arms for a local episcopal canon here are several ideas i’ve come up with.  any thoughts on ay of the options anything I missed heraldicaly.  these are jsut quick computer renderings I wll do a hand rendering once I have settled on a design.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/393195_473979219307710_1293039948_n.jpg

 
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13 December 2012 14:55
 

Unfortunately, the illustrations are a little too small for me to make out the detail.

Could you provide a blazon and the symbolism and/or a larger illustration.

 

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Iain Boyd

 
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13 December 2012 15:01
 

Seconding Ian’s request.

As a preliminary comment, the gold gismo in chief, apparently issuing from the pointy top of the base, might have more visual strength if it were a bit fatter & continued the white color of the base.  Assuming this wouldn’t interfere with identifying what the gold gizmo is, which isn’t apparent in such small scale—which also suggests that something a bit bolder might be better able to pass the "small scale or at a distance" test.

 
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13 December 2012 18:12
 

The placement of the crescent where part of it occurs over the field (color on color) is less desirable.

 
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13 December 2012 19:41
 

sorry guys didnt realize it would come out this small i’ve edited the post to include a larger image, as for the blazon i’m going to wait until i know what I’m going with.

 
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13 December 2012 21:06
 

Why not be a bit more abstract, rather than literal?  For example, "a plate" could symbolize the host, rather than literally depicting the host within the monstrance.

So, perhaps:

 

Per chevron gules and argent, issuant from the partition line at fess point towards chief a plate.

 

 

If you want to work in the crescent, try:

 

Per chevron abased gules and argent, in chief two crescents argent, at fess point a plate.

 

(The blazons are a little wonky, I’ll try to mock up some graphics tomorrow…)

 
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13 December 2012 21:08
 

I would simplify the mountain into a “per chevron Azure (or Gules) and Argent”.

I really like the use of the ostensorium!!  Perhaps it would be centered – “overall” as it were?

 
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13 December 2012 21:33
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13 December 2012 23:55
 

Thanks for the larger images! If it was me (which of course it isn’t) I’d lose the crescents, or at least move them to the top corners as was suggested already. V

David’s simplified rendition is very nice, if the intended user is open to something that simple and clean vs, something more immediately recognizable (to other Catholics, at least).

 
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13 December 2012 23:56
 

i know the client insist on a reference to the BVM and the Eucharist so I’m stuggleing on how to render this tastefully

 
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14 December 2012 06:46
 

The Blessed Virgin Mary could be symbolized with the color blue - it need not be any more explicit that that.

 
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14 December 2012 11:19
 

steven harris;96811 wrote:

The Blessed Virgin Mary could be symbolized with the color blue - it need not be any more explicit that that.


Or lilly, fleur-de-lis; star; sun & moon; birds ...

 

Here’s an 1895 Symbols and Attributes of the Virgin Mary.

 

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14 December 2012 13:47
 

Michael F. McCartney;96807 wrote:

Thanks for the larger images! If it was me (which of course it isn’t) I’d lose the crescents, or at least move them to the top corners as was suggested already. V

David’s simplified rendition is very nice, if the intended user is open to something that simple and clean vs, something more immediately recognizable (to other Catholics, at least).


thats part of the problem he has no clue as far as symbolism is concerned in heraldry, if you saw the arms he had before you would vomit. and next I have to convince his ordinary to cease usurping arms…

 
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14 December 2012 15:02
 

friarbrett;96817 wrote:

thats part of the problem he has no clue as far as symbolism is concerned in heraldry, if you saw the arms he had before you would vomit. and next I have to convince his ordinary to cease usurping arms…


Why the push to design arms for him then?  If he’s that ignorant about heraldry isn’t it better to wait?  Surely there’s no requirement that he bear arms?

 
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14 December 2012 19:44
 

friarbrett;96817 wrote:

thats part of the problem he has no clue as far as symbolism is concerned in heraldry, if you saw the arms he had before you would vomit. and next I have to convince his ordinary to cease usurping arms…

You should have seen my first try at arms :cool:

 
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14 December 2012 20:21
 

steven harris;96825 wrote:

You should have seen my first try at arms :cool:


no these are bad they dont even look like arms reminds me of the arms of a certain ewtn priest…