Hey everybody!
Haven’t been on in a while, due to internet connection problems (routers are evil!!), so with no ‘net, I decided to fiddle a little with paint and my scanner..
so I scanned some shields out of Heraldry by the late Dr. Ottfried Neubecker (borrowed from library, wish I had a copy!), and I made a different rendition of my coat of arms using a more ornate European type shield, as well as a more realistic helmet with a different turban (sorry I based it on the Turban of Hassan’s ancestral arms as it is near impossible to find a half decent heraldic turban online or anywhere else for that matter), and I also made a version of it with hatching. Let me tell you something, with all those blinding lines and dots and infinite little patterns, hatching is something I don’t wish upon anyone!!
Well, here they are, in differnet versions. I also made a bookplate, and I may paste them into my most recently acquired books (just got back from the Arabic language bookstore): "Encyclopedia of Precious Stones and Metals", and "Farouk and the Fall of the Monarchy in Egypt 1936-1952") Side note: is it "proper" to paste bookplates in soft cover books? I know there are no set rules, but I mean like the thing that says it is proper to have your arms embossed on your stationery, never printed, and never EVER in color (according to the aforementioned Dr. Neubecker)
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My Bookplate
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That is my name and title in Arabic along the outside, nice touch, eh?
Well done!
Yes, nicely done!!
really? Lines aren’t too thick? I don’t want it to look like it is a page from some coloring book!
As to the helmet, I didn’t do my usual thing of making the inside of the helmet burgundy/brown. Should I??? Cuz I have the feeling that like this it looks like the helmet just has two strips attached to the sides, and not the usual Mameluke chain-mail neck-mantle/cover.
BTW, Chapulin, would you be interested in doing my arms in your really nice style? I am so sorry about all the trouble it took you to make a nice depiction of my previous design and then toss it. So I hope you are ok with everything, and believe you me, these are my FINAL arms (of course, like any armiger, I’m open to diff renditions;))??
Email me if you are interested, as since I am now a member, I will prolly email T.Griffith soon to inquire about when the new members’ arms will be put up, so that I can present something deserving of being put up there. (Don’t forget that your name will be up there where it says Artist: !!!)
really hope I’m not sounding like some conceited little greedy brat…so, just tell me if you are interested or not so we can work out the details.
I think you should shade the inside of the helmet. Otherwise it looks like an opening. Oh, I liked the shield that culturally and historically matched the helmet.
hmmm…...gimme a sec, I’ll work on something
Mohammed,
I agree with Trent that you should shade the inside of your helmet—it does look like it’s open through. Would the backside of the helmet be lamalar or a continuation of the maille? If maille, you might try reproducing the maille design, but using a finer line, then shading for depth.
I think additionally, you ought to try canting the shield so that it leans to 11 o’clock and 5 o’clock (instead of 12 and 6); and try slightly turning the Mameluke helmet so that it faces a bit more to the dexter. This repositioning would, I think, allow the maille to show more, drape over an apex (sinister corner), and leave less helm interior to be concerned about. Just an exercise in design.
I do not think any lines are too thin, and I think your ex libris design is very nicely conceived and executed.
I know of no convention of placing ex libris stickers on only hard-bound books; after all, if you lend out a nice soft-bound, you certainly want the borrower to know to whom to return it, right? :D
Cheers,
—Guy
thanks for the suggestions guy!
well, first, here are arms using a traditional mameluke shield as Trent suggested:
Also, I had a pic of a "grant of arms" from one of those eccentric micronations guys down in Australia (and no, it’s not Prince Leonard of Hutt River, its the "Grand Duke of Avram"), anyways, one of the grants was to a Saudi guy, and his coat of arms had a mameluke/arabic helm atop the western style shield, as well as some interesting mantling. Just a sec, here it is!http://www.heraldic.org/images/aly.jpg
Personally, I think that helmet is very..awesome! Though, I would make the noseguard not so big. It looks like it’d impale the poor mamelukes face!
That is cool.
if this guy is a hoax read on if he is legit ignore the first part…
i can’t believe that people buy into these people’s delusions of grandeur… oh well… at least it’s not another Irishman going around trying to pretend he is MacCarthy Mór, King of Munster, Prince of Desmond, Chief of the Eoghanachta and Clan Mac Carthy ... or whatever his self-declared title was … we’ve had enough black eyes that have tarnished the faces of the very real chiefs and heirs to ancient Irish houses and seats… oh well…
aside from the goofiness of those people who are the prince of this and the prince of that the painting is nice. i like the shield and its charges. i like the crest. i like the helmet. however, the mantling is not even remotely aligned to the wreath and the helmet and makes it all look as thought it is not connected, but rather that the mantling is a decoration on paper behind the painting of the shield and helm… just my $.02 worth…
well, Donnchadh, the Grand Duke is about as legit as a 7 Dollar bill 
but like you say, the mantling looks like its just floating there. I just wanted to show that the mantling is in a very unusual style (attached to something or not!), it looks like ribbons with tassles at the end.
Disclaimer: If there happens to have been a US $7 bill at one point in history, ignore what I just said:)
