Wine and beer heraldry

 
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14 January 2008 20:24
 

I thought it might be interesting to start a thread looking at uses of heraldry at breweries and wineries.

I’ll start the bidding with Gabbiano (in Codex Manesse style).

 

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd4/w3r3wolv3s/chianti.jpg

 

Any thoughts on blazon?  Hard to tell colors from the label, but I’m thinking:

Gules two bars chequy Sable and Azure, or is that Sanguine and Azure?

 
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14 January 2008 21:17
 

Kevin, you and I obviously think alike, the next time I ought beer with good heraldry on it I was going to start this thread. Usually foreign beers.

And I actually have a bottle of this wine in my kitchen. It’s Sanguine (not the best heraldry to start us out)

 
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14 January 2008 21:42
 

werewolves;53156 wrote:

I thought it might be interesting to start a thread looking at uses of heraldry at breweries and wineries.

Any thoughts on blazon?  Hard to tell colors from the label, but I’m thinking:

Gules two bars chequy Sable and Azure, or is that Sanguine and Azure?

The checks are Or and Azure- they just used an "old gold" for the or, which looks like a dark brown.

I’ve actually been running a series on "arms from wine bottles" in the Prairie Tressure (shameless plug)- I’ll post some of the examples later (right now, I just did a "mad scientist" routine for about 25 6-year-olds, and barely have the energy to make this post).

 

But here’s one that was almost designated the official wine of the Prairie Branch of the RHSC:

http://www.boccacciowines.com/images/Rustica-Rosso.jpg

 
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15 January 2008 03:16
 

I’ve a sample, too.

http://www.gebirn.com/Caceres.JPG

 

Photo made and wine consumed in 2005.

 

The label was more impresssing by far than the wine .....

 
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15 January 2008 08:39
 

Linusboarder;53157 wrote:

Kevin, you and I obviously think alike, the next time I ought beer with good heraldry on it I was going to start this thread. Usually foreign beers.

And I actually have a bottle of this wine in my kitchen. It’s Sanguine (not the best heraldry to start us out)


Anyone know who this knight is?

 
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15 January 2008 09:15
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15 January 2008 12:47
 

emrys;53174 wrote:

Walther von Metze

see : http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/cpg848/0328


Thank you.

 
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15 January 2008 12:55
 

emrys;53174 wrote:

Walther von Metze

see : http://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/cpg848/0328

In that picture, it actually does look like sanguine…

 
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16 January 2008 12:30
 

http://www.isc.cvut.cz/agm2007/obrazky_trip/Pilsen and Kalsbad/PilsnerUrquell_nalepka.jpg

The Pilsner Urquell Beer label with the arms of the city of Plzen (in German Pilsen).

 
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16 January 2008 12:33
 

http://www.ratebeer.com/beerimages/48222.jpg

The Swedish Beer Three Towns (yes the name is in English) has the Lion from the arms of Göteborg, the Head of St. Erik from the arms of Stockholm and the Griffin’s head from the arms of Malmö.

 
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17 January 2008 02:18
 

This first one from the Ukraine is not heraldic but it does have a catchy name smile

 
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17 January 2008 13:16
 

George Lucki;53244 wrote:

This first one from the Ukraine is not heraldic but it does have a catchy name smile and the strength seems about right.

For the benefit of those who don’t read Cyrillic, the name of the beer is "Lutski", which is a variation on "Lucki".  The 12%, however, is more likely to refer to the percentage of solids in the beer than the alcohol concentration.

I have shopped in Ukraine for beer a number of times in the past few years, and they’re usually the "normal" percentage of alcohol- about 5%, give or take a few.  But I don’t drink the stuff, so I could be wrong.

 
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17 January 2008 14:57
 

Intersting!  My wife’s maiden name was Lutsky, though they don’t know how the spelling came about.

 
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17 January 2008 15:03
 

Thanks for those two clarifications. I should have provided more information.

The beer is called "Lucki"" after the town of "Luck" where it is produced.

The 12% refers to the weight of the beer or its specific gravity on I believe a Platonic scale (I’m not sure what Plato has to with beer). You’ll see this on some belgian beers as well. The higher the number the more fermentable material would be there - the more substantial and less watery the beer. Most beers are 10 and based on taste I would guess that American beers might be an 8 or 9.

 
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17 January 2008 15:15
 

Andrew J Vidal;53266 wrote:

Intersting!  My wife’s maiden name was Lutsky, though they don’t know how the spelling came about.


Andrew, Most interesting. Lutsky or Lutskyj is the typical transcription from cyrillic alphabets into English of my own surname. The Polish ‘c’ sounds like an English ‘ts’ and the ‘y’ is the same as the Polish ‘i’. The alternate spellings arise either if people emigrated from places where cyrillic script was used in official documents. Sometimes it is also preferred by folks whose own ethnic identity is Ruthenian or Belarussian. Essentially your wife and I bear the same surname. Now are we related? It would be cool if we were, but the surname is not uncommon and there are a number of different sources for the name. One state capital - the town of Luck was the origin of many such names (for example among the Jewish families of Pinsk who originated in Luck) but also from any number of communities called Meadow (Laka in Polish, Luka in Ruthenian) or Bow (Luk). Where specifically does her family hail from?

 
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17 January 2008 15:31
 

That I couldn’t tell you, both her grandparents have passed and there’s only a limited knowledge of their heritage.