Design Critique Requested - David Pope Arms

 
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30 August 2013 14:18
 

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30 August 2013 14:49
 

Guy Power;100440 wrote:

~Canis Dæmonium~!

Propter Christum, homines ~ Age! Vis in sempiternum vivent?

 

 

Semper Fi!

—Guy

 

 

 


vos filii canes…?

 

 

 

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30 August 2013 19:35
 

I think the fire-breathing is overkill and fights for visual interest with the sword. Why not just give it a dragon’s tongue in addition to the other attributes: a demi talbot with the wings, tail and tongue of a dragon Gules brandishing a Mamaluke sword Argent hilted Or.

(I suppose it’s the dog that makes me want to call it a Marmaduke sword.)

 
 
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30 August 2013 21:43
 

Kenneth Mansfield;100452 wrote:

I think the fire-breathing is overkill and fights for visual interest with the sword. Why not just give it a dragon’s tongue in addition to the other attributes: a demi talbot with the wings, tail and tongue of a dragon Gules brandishing a Mamaluke sword Argent hilted Or.


I agree; I found the flames distracting as well.


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(I suppose it’s the dog that makes me want to call it a Marmaduke sword.)


Well, if Kathy can give her mythical beast a name, why not?  Or a marmadrake, since it’s part dragon.

 
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30 August 2013 22:05
 

Kenneth Mansfield;100452 wrote:

I think the fire-breathing is overkill and fights for visual interest with the sword. Why not just give it a dragon’s tongue in addition to the other attributes: a demi talbot with the wings, tail and tongue of a dragon Gules brandishing a Mamaluke sword Argent hilted Or.

Joseph McMillan;100455 wrote:

I agree; I found the flames distracting as well.


What are your thoughts on the sword?  Is it a better design without it?  Does the sword add balance?

 
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30 August 2013 22:17
 

I think the sword offers a nice visual balance with the wings to sinister, though this particular devil-dog might consider doing some curls with his left arm, too.

 
 
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31 August 2013 03:41
 

David Pope;100445 wrote:

vos filii canes…?


Maybe the legend is better than the truth?  According to Daniel Daly, he said "men."  But it was said in combat, so who knows.


Wiki wrote:

...Daly later told a Marine Corps historian that his words were "For Christ’s sake men—come on! Do you want to live forever?"...

source


He was one tough customer!  Two Medals of Honor [15 years apart], Navy Cross , Distinguished Service Cross….

 

[Apologies for going off-topic]

 

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31 August 2013 03:54
 

Joseph McMillan;100455 wrote:

I agree; I found the flames distracting as well.


The first thing I thought was ..... "dog breath."

 

I like the crest, minus the flames.  And, I like the idea of substituting a Mameluke sword vice the heraldic seax.

 

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03 September 2013 05:31
 

Are we implying dragons are necessarily reminiscent of devils?  Scandalous!  It’s a lie!

A demi-dog with the wings, tail and tongue of the devil…

 

And I agree with the majority on the flames…

 
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13 October 2013 17:29
 
 
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15 October 2013 00:21
 

Does this not look like a face, where the heart is a mouth and the flowers are eyes? Very "smiley" arms really.

Plus you have five different tinctures, three different types of charges plus an ordinary. Overly complex arms IMO. I feel it’s more important to be honest than flattering if I am to serve here.

 
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15 October 2013 04:01
 

I admit I haven’t been following the thread.  However, I agree with Jeffrey, too much to be effective IMHO.

 
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15 October 2013 09:50
 

I completely disagree with the assertion that the arms are too complex.

 
 
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15 October 2013 10:14
 

Kenneth Mansfield;100858 wrote:

I completely disagree with the assertion that the arms are too complex.


Me too.  I like the design very much.

 
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18 October 2013 18:44
 

Very nice, if the family likes them.