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19 November 2006 06:45
 

Some of the St. Andrew’s Societies in in US have got arms some examples:

http://www.standrewsocietynh.org/links_society/images/SAS_DC_W.gif

St.Andrew’s Society of Washington D.C. combindes Scottish symbols with the Washington Arms.

 
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19 November 2006 06:47
 

http://www.standrewsatlanta.org/images/sascoat.gif

St. Andrew’s Society of Atlanta.

 
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19 November 2006 06:50
 

http://www.standrewsny.org/images/SAS Coat of Arms.jpg

St. Andrew’s Society of the State of New York.

 
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18 June 2008 04:36
 

http://www.tartanplaid.com/Saint/images/Badgeupc.jpg

St. Andrew’s Society of Los Angeles Inc.

http://www.hunterclanusa.org/smsasfclr.gif

St. Andrew’s Society of San Francisco.

 
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18 June 2008 17:29
 

all good, but Atlanta takes the prize i think. smile

 
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19 February 2009 05:56
 

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3884/logospringfieldmotl4.jpg

Scottish St. Andrews Society of Springfield, MO. Picture from: http://www.springfieldscots.org/links.html

http://www.charlottecultureguide.com/images/organizations/112.jpg

Altough not strictly a St. Andrew’s Society but as there is a Scottish connection I include here the Arms of the Catawba Valley Scottish Society. The Society has its seat in Huntersville, NC.

 
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19 February 2009 06:01
 

As the pictures could not been seen anymore here is some new pictures:

http://www.saintandrewssociety-sf.org/images/image_1.jpg

 

http://www.standrewsny.org/images/St.Andrew-CoatOfArms.jpg

St. Andrew’s Society of the State of New York.

 
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19 February 2009 06:04
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19 February 2009 12:08
 

Marcus K;66719 wrote:

As the pictures could not been seen anymore here is some new pictures:

http://www.saintandrewssociety-sf.org/images/image_1.jpg


Oh great. Now what’s the St. Andrews Society of Phoenix supposed to use?

 
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19 February 2009 22:38
 

Are those supposed to be sprigs of the cotton bush?


Marcus K;36038 wrote:

http://www.standrewsatlanta.org/images/sascoat.gif

St. Andrew’s Society of Atlanta.

 

 
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19 February 2009 23:00
 

Fred White;66749 wrote:

Are those supposed to be sprigs of the cotton bush?


No, that’s dogwood, but I would have expected Atlanta to use Cherokee roses, the Georgia state flower:

 

 

http://www.desotostatepark.com/photogallery/wildflowers/cherokee rose.jpg

 

Which looks remarkably like

 

http://www.stanleyrangers.org.uk/images/york_rose.jpg

 

How heraldic could you get?

 
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19 February 2009 23:02
 

I guess cotton would have a certain Confederate irredentist quality, wouldn’t it?

 
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20 February 2009 01:41
 

Joseph McMillan;66750 wrote:

No, that’s dogwood, but I would have expected Atlanta to use Cherokee roses, the Georgia state flower


Many, maybe all, of these arms appear to be Lyon Court grants. The use of the sallet and the general style of the paintings are give-aways. Unfortunately I doubt that Lords Lyon are any more expert on US flora than I am so presumably the suggestion for dogwood came from the Atlanta society.

 

It certainly seems to have been the case that the Lyon Court is quite happy to treat St Andrew’s Societies as sufficiently connected to Scotland to come under their remit. The Sao Paulo society arms shown on another thread are also a Scottish grant and I have a copy of the arms granted by Lyon to the society in Bangkok.

 

Before anyone protests smile

 

Not one for the AHS awards, though it wouldn’t take too much to clean it up a bit.

 

James

 
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20 February 2009 03:22
 

Arian asked -

"Now what’s the St. Andrews Society of Phoenix supposed to use?"

 

 

May I suggest perhaps -

 

"Or, a phoenix proper, on a chief azure a saltire argent".

 

Regards,

 

Iain Boyd

 
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20 February 2009 16:15
 

Iain Boyd;66759 wrote:

Arian asked -

"Now what’s the St. Andrews Society of Phoenix supposed to use?"

 

 

May I suggest perhaps -

 

"Or, a phoenix proper, on a chief azure a saltire argent".


I’d suggest a phoenix Gules, just for clarity.

 
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20 February 2009 16:41
 

James Dempster;66757 wrote:

Many, maybe all, of these arms appear to be Lyon Court grants.


The St. Andrews Society of Washington, DC (of which I am a member—at least I am if I remembered to send in my dues :confused:) and whose arms appear earlier in the thread is also a Lyon grant.  So is the St. Andrews Society of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, whose arms appear in Mark Dennis’s little booklet on Scottish heraldry issued by the HSS.  I seem to recall that it shows the Scottish St. Andrews cross dimidiating the Alabama St. Andrews cross, with a chaplet of thistles over all.