The arms of Abp. Stanislaw Wielgus who will be installed this weekend as Archbishop of Warsaw Poland along with those of his predecessor, Cardinal Glemp, as well as their photos on a billboard in Warsaw. Nice display of heraldry.
http://images.optonline.net/media//image/XCS15201051704.jpg
The arms (up close) which will have another row of tassels and a patriarchal cross (you can barely see on the billboard that they have been added).
http://www.diecezja.plock.pl/pliki/biskupi/kh_bpasa.gif
and the arms of Glemp
I have appreciated every image of the clergy’s CoA’s in this thread, although I must admit tht I don’t neccessarily like some of them. However, I have heard that here has been a CoA attributed to Jesus Christ. I would love to see that one if at all possible. Have you heard of such a CoA, gselvester?
There’s a bit of a controversy going on now with this installment, apparently the new Archbishop has been accused of being an informant to the communist regime, and that the Vatican has found evidence to support that.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/01/05/poland.bishop.reut/index.html
What will happen to his Arms if this proves to be the case? If he resigns, does he then have to forefit his CoA or does that go with him (minus the tassles)?
His arms are his, not of his office. He gets to keep the tassels too no matter what. It is not the installation that makes him an archbishop but the appointment by the Pope which has already happened. The installation is continuing just as planned.
but good Father, how can the Church not stop the installation if they themselves have evidence he informed against his fellow Catholics tot he Communists? is there a Church rule that says once one is appointed he must be installed? i just don’t know, so please be patient with my questions on this as it bothers me to no end that a traitor, or sell-out, [bIF that’s what he turns out to be, can ever become a bishop - especially in a nation where the Catholics were treated so badly by the Communists ... it is all very confusing to me.
and if they can stop the installation wouldn’t only the arms be his not the tassels and cross?
It is not a black and white situation. he has been accused of something but there is NO PROOF he did anything wrong. While he has admitted to being in touch with the secret police he has denied any informing, or wrong-doing.
The Holy See knew all about this BEFORE they appointed him and appointed him anyway. The evidence being presented that suggests he was an informant is being presented by the former Communists. The Holy See has no knowledge or proof that he was a Communist spy, collaborator or informant.
As for the arms, they are his and he is now an archbishop. (he has already assumed office and Sunday’s installation is merely ceremonial) Even if he resigned as archbishop of Warsaw he’ll still be an archbishop…and entitled to ten tassels and a patriarchal cross.
Here is an article from the BBC. Keep in mind that the "church commission referred to in the article refers to a local (i.e. Polish) church commission, not the Holy See.
gselvester wrote:
Yes, it’s a rose, a symbol of Our Lady of Guadalupe.
Do you know there’s a Biennial dedicated to her in Mexico City? I had artwork in this one time.
Donnchadh wrote:
I agree with the good Father. I don’t think it is strange at all.
Yes; I’ve seen a number of examples over the years.
Archbishop Wielgus has resigned his possition as Archbishop of Warsaw. So he obviously though he could not uphold this Office.
Som arms from the Ukrainian rite Church.
http://www.myslenedrevo.com.ua/studies/znak/032/320303.gif
CoA of Stepan Menrik, exarch of Dontesk-Kharkiv since 15 february 2002.
http://www.myslenedrevo.com.ua/studies/znak/032/320305.gif
CoA of Vasily Ivasuyk, exarch of Odessa-Krym.
Apparently, the pressure from the ignorant of the world who are so quick to judge was too much for the archbishop to bear and was going to undermine his authority. On the day of his ceremonial installation…he resigned!
http://www.optonline.net/News/Article/Feeds?CID=type=xml&channel=32&article=20743483
But…he is an archbishop so his arms get to keep the 12 tassels and the patriarchal cross.
The arms of the Most Rev. Paul Cremona, O.P. newly appointed archbishop of Malta. (the island, not the Order)
I don’t know the symbolism to all of it. The chief is of the arms of the Order of Preachers (Dominicans) to which the archbishop belongs. He is, apparently, in the Sovereign Military Order of Malta due to the cross of Malta behind the shield. However, I also wonder if this is an "ex officio" honor bestowed on all the archbishops of Malta by the Order. The pallium is rather ill-placed. From the artwork it looks to have been done by Cardinal di Montezemolo (who also famously or infamously as the case may be designed the arms of the present pope to include a pallium as well) who is fond of including the pallium in the arms of archbishops.
http://www.maltachurch.org.mt/Press/2007/Stemma_-_Arcisqof_Mons._Pawl_Cremona.jpg
without the pallium it is nice. but, the pallium is so ill-placed as to make the whole thing ... IMHO only ... ugly ... what ever happened to good taste in ecclesiastical arms???
Well, since ther designer made better use of the pallium by placing it as a charge on the shield (as opposed to an external ornament where it is really out of place) I’m a bit perplexed. Since the shield is divided into three major areas (another trademark of Montezemolo’s) then wouldn’t it have been better to divide the shield per pall with the pallium and then go ahead and fill each of the three areas as he has done?
Absolutely good Father. As is, it is out pf place and looks like an ‘afterthought’ rather than a part of the shield, which would be best, or as an ornament, which is bad. I find fault with its placement on the chief over everything. To me, anyway, in this manner it appears as a ornament that is placed on top of the shield as opposed to the bottom, which both being wrong, makes it all the more uglier because who in the heck uses an ornament draped over the chief of their shield anyway?
Dividing it per pall with a pallium would have been much better. Although he probably didn’t as it could look too much like some of the arms of Sees that have a pallium over the color of the field as its main charge an all.
Of course I may be way off, which I am learning lately is very much a possibility. 
