Those arms seem pretty simple, just a lot of frivolous wording to get to the final depiction. The first and fourth quarters are azure with a lion rampant or holding its tail in one hand and a silver crown in the other. The second and third quarters are gules with a silver crown.
Though I am not sure what the last bit adds up to, "The second form of the family is a quergetheilter sign in the upper blue field a golden sheaf of corn, the lower red field bergmännsicher a hammer and mallet, placed in the form of a St. Andrew’s Cross and also a silver Salzküffel." Are these to be brisures?
Alexander Liptak wrote:
Are these to be brisures?
Sound like charges to me?
quergeteilt = divided transversely
bergmännischer = Miner
Salzküffel = salt cellar [from a diminutive of Middle High German kuofe ‘vat’, ‘barrel’.]
Perhaps "Per fess azure a corn sheaf Or and gules a miner’s hammer and mallet argent" ... dunno where to place the salt cellar.
Or would that blazon be "Per fess Azure and Gules, in chief a corn garb Or and in base a miner’s hammer and mallet Argent crossed in saltire…" same question to the placement in base of the salt cellar Argent.
—Guy
As most appropriate to the family in question, these blazons - or at least the Google versions - are tortured nearly to death…
And given my largely unsuccessful efforts to narrow down a Google-generated seven-digit list of largely irrelevant references (on different topics), I’d say the Google gremlins might be illegitimate descendants of the same family…
Got another one for our Latinists.
Ubi spiritus et verbum ibi vera libertas
I think that means “Where the spirit and the word are, there is true liberty,” but wanted to double-check.
Thanks.
That’s how I would translate it.
It is similar in construct to the hymn "Ubi Caritas Et Amor, Deus Ibi Est" - translated as "Where there is charity and love, there is God".
Yep, that’d be my reading of it as well.
Got another one: Quæ teneamus perdimus, quæ demus nobis sunt.
It’s the motto of St. Catherine’s School in Richmond, Virginia.
Joseph McMillan;102158 wrote:
Got another one: Quæ teneamus perdimus, quæ demus nobis sunt.
It’s the motto of St. Catherine’s School in Richmond, Virginia.
Literal: "The things we might hold we lose, the things we might give are ours" [lit: ‘to us,’ but in Latin there is a dative of possession].
Better English: "What we keep we lose; only what we give remains our own."
Thanks very much. Not quite Luke 9:24 or 12:48, but much the same idea.
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